Reid defends ethical army

#1
John Reid, the Defence Secretary, will issue a dramatic plea tomorrow for people to be slower to condemn the British army in Iraq, arguing that they are battling pressures that civilian critics cannot understand.
In a dramatic fightback following allegations of abuse of Iraqi prisoners, he will say soldiers are under an onslaught not just from the insurgency but from 24-hour media scrutiny, new human rights legislation and lawyers seeking out complaints of civilian mistreatment.

He will describe the armed forces as a 'moral and deeply ethical profession' which should be better understood at home.

'Please be very slow to condemn, and very quick to defend and praise our soldiers, because they work in the most extremely difficult circumstances against an enemy who is completely unconstrained by any morality, any legal conventions, any human-rights standards and any scrutiny and that makes it very difficult for the men and women who serve this country,' Reid will tell an audience of military and civilian experts at King's College, London.
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about bloody time as well

daz
 
#2
Absolutely, And praise where it's due. Reid has had a slow start, but traditionally he has always been a fan and I hope this is a positive sign of a more robust line from an otherwise completely flabby government.
 
#3
I for one was glad to see the back of Geoff "Buffoon" Hoon, however Reid has been very slow to support the troops in his newish post. Its about bloody time he made a statement like this!
 
#4
Great statement. How though will he influence decisions to persecute those who do their job on the ground but fail to satisfy the desk drivers back in UK?
 
#5
Mr Reid, as an ex-Communist and now slavish adherent of Blairism, is indirectly responsible for our "Human Rights" obsessed, spin-dominated and litigious culture. He was part of the cadre (I'm sure he would approve of the term) who have foisted this on us with stealth and sofa government.

So he can hardly blame others when the army reaps what he and others like him sow.
 
#6
Why did he hold off making this statement? Could it be because public opinion has been measured and the spin doctors feel this support is inline with middle England? Don't be to eager in praising Mr Reid.
 
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#7
I wouldn't be so quick to either. There are some very embarrasing moments coming our way soon and he's just trying to head the off at the pass.
 
#8
Good for him, but as Veg said, lets not be too quick to praise. There will be the usual ulterior motive here. Reid is not stupid and can read the future, no surprise then, that at a time when the Miserable Fifer is shamelessly praising "Our Boys" (having fecked us over for 8 years), others in the Cabinet with hopes for promotion, are falling in line.

A little substance with these remarks would make me less cynical. see also: AG says no troops will be referred to Hague!
 
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Oberleutnant_vn_Genschler said:
Why did he hold off making this statement? Could it be because public opinion has been measured and the spin doctors feel this support is inline with middle England? Don't be to eager in praising Mr Reid.
Absolutely! I very much doubt that this spin-driven government would officially endorse anything or anyone until the pollsters declared that it was at least a politically neutral thing to do.
 
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DozyBint said:
Oberleutnant_vn_Genschler said:
Why did he hold off making this statement? Could it be because public opinion has been measured and the spin doctors feel this support is inline with middle England? Don't be to eager in praising Mr Reid.
Absolutely! I very much doubt that this spin-driven government would officially endorse anything or anyone until the pollsters declared that it was at least a politically neutral thing to do.
Hear hear!

He is not backing up any statements with decent pay offers or amendments to controversial changes such as stopping unpopular re-badging etc...
 
#13
Wouldn't trust the Great Dr Reid as far as I could throw him. He says one thing and means entirely another. The sooner we are rid of him and his colleagues the better!

Bob
 
#15
Guys , some replies edited. Please keep the flowery language down , it's not the Naafi bar.

PTP
 
#16
Really interesting piece here dated 2002 giving a profile on John Reid. To be honest, he seems like the sort of bloke we want, much better than TCH anyway.
 
#17
All good and well for him defending us at Kings College. How about standing up in parliament or on the national news and quoting this statement.

Chances are this positive statement for the armed forces will only be heard by the ARRSE online community and a bunch of filthy left wing students !

MM
 
#18
I was most impressed by Dr Reid's appearance on the Sunday AM show this morning where he talked about his upcoming speech.

As stated by others, about bloody time someone that high up was seen to be standing up for the personnel they are in charge of.
 
#20
I am sure that much of what he says reflects genuine feeling for the Armed Forces.

The trouble is that those in uniform are firmly in fourth place on John Reid's priority list which runs as follows:

1. Political career of John Reid
2. Government
3. Labour Party
4. HM Forces

The same will be true for most politicians....John Reid's predecessor was a particularly egregious combination of political expediency and incompetence!
 

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