Regimental Name Changes

Reckon they can have it. Disband and stand down the old regiments and let the current shower of shit get on with finishing the job of totally destroying the military. Rather not be associated with the fuckwits now infesting and demeaning my old unit.

From a report dated 17 October 2012 by Graeme Hosken on Times Live:


Fears are mounting that South Africa's pre-democracy military history could be wiped out if ulterior motives are allowed to drive the name changes of dozens of army regiments.

The concerns are being voiced as the team driving the proposed name changes of 67 reserve army regiments nears the end of its work.

It is feared that, along with name changes, affected regiments will lose their colours [flags], battle honours and badges, all of which define a regiment.

The name-change project, said SA Army chief Lieutenant-General Vusumuzi Masondo, is due for completion in March. The project, code-named Phoenix, which began in 2003, called for affected regiments to suggest new names for their units last year.

Masondo said the changes were aimed at revitalising the defence force.

"Though this is a sensitive issue . a requirement exists to reflect the new historic balance in unit names and military traditions."

Military analyst Helmoed Heitman was cautious of the name changes.

"The National Party made the same mistake pre-1994. The government is now on the same path," he said.

He said the argument that the names of regiments had to be changed because they were reminiscent of apartheid and South Africa's colonial past was "ridiculous".

"History cannot be rewritten by changing a name. History has to be acknowledged," he said.

Heitman said: "The loss of a regiment's colours would be disastrous. If this happens, units would lose their entire history and everything that defined them."

He said regiments had apparently been advised to choose "less objectionable" names, "which is completely childish".

"There are many members of the affected regiments - black and white - who joined the regiments because of their history and what they stood for in terms of honour and tradition."

Godfrey Giles, chairman of the Council of Military Veterans' Organisations, dismissed Heitman's concerns.

He said the move was not intended to eradicate South Africa's military history.

Giles said the plan was to remove offensive terms associated with the past to ensure the representation of all South Africans.

He said the entire process was a "melting pot" of ideas and no final decisions had been taken.

Giles said those driving the process were looking at numerous solutions, including naming units after politicians, "as has been done in the past".

"The team is looking at possibly renaming regiments after ethnic names, geographical names - such as changing Natal Mounted Rifles to KwaZulu-Natal Mounted Rifles and after famous South African battles," Giles said.

He said, given the country's rich military history, the process was being carefully thought through.

"There are efforts to ensure, wherever possible, the preservation of South Africa's proud military history."

His organisation supported the building of traditions for the new South Africa.
A lot of guys are now sharing Lardbeast's opinion, especially in the manner of this "transformation". The calibre of command in this process just reinforces these feelings.

Not just the DLI debacle Soldier who wore dead colleague

Now the Jocks (needs Google Translate): Inspector general asked to investigate appointment of new TS OC. Leër bekyk nóg

It's a bit garbled below, but you get the gist:

The army investigation of yet another regimental commander because of a suspicious past. Siphiwe Dlamini, military communications chief, confirmed Gen. Solly Shoke, head of the army, ordered the army's inspector general the appointment of Lieutenant Colonel. Danny Dinah as commander of the Transvaal Scottish Regiment investigation.
Investigation comes after inquires about Dinah's qualifications and reputation before he was appointed commander.

Dinah is the second of 14 new appointments of commanders at the army's part-time regiments part of these regiments "transformation". Dinah was formerly a sergeant-major in the regiment before being transferred for alleged poor performance. He later without undergoing his officer training, an officer and company commander become.

It was his company's soldiers two years ago during a deployment to the Mozambican border one night late in a shootout in a shebeen with soldiers Mozambican army clashed. One of the South African soldiers and two Mozambicans are killed. Dinah was then as company commander of his powers relieved.

According to his colleagues at the regiment he since his appointment in August declared that he would not wear regimental dress Transvaal Scottish in Scottish skirt and plumed headdress and all would wear. he without permission apparently ordered this dress with ordinary camouflage uniforms and a green cap will be replaced. He also its longest serving officers in the regiment rid them 24 hours notice. Dinah's appointment is in the spotlight soon after that of Lieutenant Colonel. Sibusiso Mbuyazi Durban Light Infantry, who shortly after his appointment was removed from his post. He believes the medals of a deceased chaplain worn. Dlamini denied that Dinah something against his regiment's traditional dress.

And, while the Jocks have been told to get rid of the kilt, the SAAF has run out of uniforms:

Hell's bells, and buckets of blood!!!! What a shambles.
You don't know the half of it. Wouldn't trust this shower of spaccers to sit the right way round on the toilet. As a general rule, everything they touch turns to shit. Keep that in mind and you won't go wrong in SA.


So it's safe to assume we'll be seeing some new nominations in the "African Infantryman of the year" thread soon?
Giles said those driving the process were looking at numerous solutions, including naming units after politicians, "as has been done in the past".
Zuma's Own? The Malema Fusiliers? What happens when a new ANC faction comes to power and previous Big Men are disappeared from history?

Well, the UK isn't immune from this, either.


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Zuma's Own? The Malema Fusiliers? What happens when a new ANC faction comes to power and previous Big Men are disappeared from history?

Well, the UK isn't immune from this, either.
**** let 'em take the traditional route, exemplified by Robert - "Harbringer of Freedom and Toppler of Despicable Rhodesian Apartheid Boers" Mugabe, praise be his name, and reintroduce tribal units.
The President's personal force could be called, oh I don't know, how about the Gukurahundi Guard to celebrate all the peaceful resolutions Fifth Brigade has brought ?
Just rename them Impis - Crocodile Impi, Lion Impi, etc. (Although it might be seen as somewhat Zulucentric!)
Just a thought, but if we were to ask the likes of 'call me Dave' and the ‘emperor Bliar’ to be the regimental colonels in chief would that in some way make it more difficult for their party’s to disband Regiments while they are or where in power or opposition ??(Just a thought - or possibly a cunning plan)

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