Isn't the danger in that though that for a lot of civies there only knowledge of WO and SNCOs is the old stereotypes from 'Get Some In' and 'Bad Lads Army' and they think a former Sergeant Major is going to treat their staff like some crow in a Training Regiment and have most of their staff out on strike in the first week.That really depends on what sector you’re moving into.
Also, a bit like academic qualifications, if you’ve got one that you don’t need, no harm. If being an ex SNCO/WO doesn’t mean anything, don’t worry, but the more quivers you have to your bow, the better. Better to have a skill or experience you don’t need than lack one you do.
Everyone pushes the boundaries of their CV, a bit of rank and subsequent experience and/or management helps push realistic boundaries.
True, But if it gets a foot in the door ...Isn't the danger in that though that for a lot of civies there only knowledge of WO and SNCOs is the old stereotypes from 'Get Some In' and 'Bad Lads Army' and they think a former Sergeant Major is going to treat their staff like some crow in a Training Regiment and have most of their staff out on strike in the first week.
There is much talk in the Army of how I managed a platoon of 30 men or a company of 100. But the difference in civilian life is that you can't just jail them if they don't instantly obey an order.
If it gets you into her knickers, who cares!Have to add, when a Graduate talks about his/her ‘summer of hell’ working in McDonalds and you talk about your ‘summer of hell’ in Afghanistan, who has the major bragging rights?
Doesn’t matter if you weren’t there, they can’t prove otherwise.
Can’t disagree that CTW and resettlement needs to be reviewed, but that’s a new thread. Start it.I can't talk about Civvy St, but i was looking at coming out a few years ago as a Cpl and the archaic Career Transition Workshop really fucked me off with their focus on rank = what job you will get; and the workshops were segregated into rank ie seniors and officers will have a better chance in Civvy St than the erks.
The jobs they tailored my CV too and jobs i got sent were security guard and factory work.
The CTP needs a MAJOR overhaul.
I disagree, the Cpl is the backbone of the ArmyWhere is your pride man, do you not have any future ambition. The WO's & SGT's Mess is the back bone of the British Army. If you want to be a Cpl all your life then fine. But you should take the short term hit in favour of the long term. Anyone who refuses promotion clearly doesn't understand the shit filters.
I think he has a technical trade, no idea whyDont stay a full screw just to stay with yr mates and dig trenches and stuff together. They will get promoted up or leave, and as some others have said, you shit the bed - you lie in it. OC's and CO's will remember and across the other companies/squadrons/batterys/whatever, blokes will be moving across and taking your slots.
Go for it if its offered buddy
With all due respect, an OU BSc is at best an entry-level qualification nowadays, when the universities and former polytechnics are churning out Computer Science graduates by the metric fucktonload, including some 4-year courses with an industry year as part of the course. The CCNA is useful, but you probably need to identify which aspect of IT and/or comms floats your boat the highest and go in hard to get relevant commercially-recognised qualifications in that field.Thanks for the reply and I appreciate the harshness. I have got an IT/Comms background, though I am currently in an ERE post and due back at my parent Regiment in September 2021. I'm hoping I can pick up my third prior to going back, but it all depends what job I would do?
In reference to my future, I have been studying with the Open Uni since 2015, for a BSC in Computing and IT (Communications and Networking). The OU is offering a degree in Cybersecurity, but it is not available until 2021, but I could change as I have done most of the courses already, I would just need to wait until the new modules became available. I know I mention data science and programming, but I have a real interest in Network engineering and have done part 1 CISCO CCNA with the OU. I'm also doing Python with Udemy and they offer courses on Data Science.
My plan is to have a BSC at least by the time I leave after 24 years. At least if I do leave as a Cpl, I'll have something to show for it.
I would not be against starting in a junior role if that's what it takes.
I don't know how these new pay scales work as they came into effect some time after I left. You say that promotion is possible which implies that you haven't been notified that you will be promoted so at this moment it's all a bit moot.What happens if you refuse promotion from Cpl to Sgt?
I ask because I used to be on the higher pay scale and when the new pay scale came out I was moved to supplement 1. So what happens now is my pay as a cpl doesn't exist and it's near the top end of sgt.
This year I got 3RO so promotion could be possible.
I ve worked out my pay rise will be £165. I am currently on a great posting abroad and only been here a couple of months and dont want to leave.
If I got promoted I would get more money, just. But I would have to pay mess Bill's etc and diners. So my income I bring will be less. So I will be working for less.
What is the point for working less. How would you refuse promotion if given it and what would happen. I expect the chain of command to not understand. Just wanted to know peoples view on here
I'll back this up. That B.Sc in Computer Science is a good solid start, but it leaves you at the entry level of the IT profession, along with an awful lot of young graduates - you'll start off on an entry-level wage.Similarly, programming - unless you have a particular and specific skill in one of the areas of interest - for data science, R, Python or SAS, old and new, plus good Java skills and a decent knowledge of C++...
I don't want to discourage you at all, but a BSc and the full CCNA would be someone 22-23 years old in civvy street. The CCNA is no longer in 2 parts (since February), there's only the unified exam so your part 1 CCENT isn't a stepping stone to CCNA any more. By age 25-26 a good network engineer would have their CCNP which is quite a big step up. In order to be competitive you will really need to emphasise the "I managed X people and £Y worth of kit" side.I have been studying with the Open Uni since 2015, for a BSC in Computing and IT (Communications and Networking). The OU is offering a degree in Cybersecurity, but it is not available until 2021, but I could change as I have done most of the courses already, I would just need to wait until the new modules became available. I know I mention data science and programming, but I have a real interest in Network engineering and have done part 1 CISCO CCNA with the OU