Rees-Mogg: Traitor, Hero or Muppet?

JRM 1/ Traitor, 2/ Hero, 3/ Muppet

  • 1. Traitor

    Votes: 22 6.8%
  • 2. Hero

    Votes: 52 16.1%
  • 3. Muppet

    Votes: 91 28.2%
  • 4. A very nice chap doing his best for the country

    Votes: 158 48.9%

  • Total voters
    323
And I was born in Worcester despite my accent, and live in Scotland.

We can't afford glass houses up here, we've only just got the hang of this running water thingy
those lumpy bits on the sides of both your hands isn't arthritis, it's that sixth finger growing out

not a bad thing, you can learn to play the six sting banjo, one finger for each string

what's that they say over that side of the water .... "Paddle faster, I hear banjos"
 
I liked Kinnock but did not trust him, whereas I liked, and trusted, John Smith, and I agree that he was a great loss to the nation, not just his party.

Another intelligent Scot, was Gordon Brown.
If you want to know what kind of human being a PM is, ask his 'Prot'.
He was genuinely polite, as was Mrs B (met her, smart as a whip and very likeable), unlike the predecessors fake smile (him) and icy/entitled countenance (her).
They agreed that Mr B was a very intelligent guy, far better company than the previous incumbent, although they would miss the glamorous holiday venues as Mr B spent his in wet and cold Queensferry.


My bold.. sorry I could not let that faux pas go unchallenged. Intelligent? This is the man that singlehandedly f**ked our economy up during his years as chancellor, giving notice to the world & selling our gold at a ludicrously cheap price. A two faced hypocrite calling a lifelong Labour supporter a racist/bigot behind her back, forgetting his mike was still on, for daring to question him on Labours wisdom in inviting millions of immigrants in whilst lying about it. The man whose inability to control our banking system allowed the crash to happen?
 
My bold.. sorry I could not let that faux pas go unchallenged. Intelligent? This is the man that singlehandedly f**ked our economy up during his years as chancellor, giving notice to the world & selling our gold at a ludicrously cheap price. A two faced hypocrite calling a lifelong Labour supporter a racist/bigot behind her back, forgetting his mike was still on, for daring to question him on Labours wisdom in inviting millions of immigrants in whilst lying about it. The man whose inability to control our banking system allowed the crash to happen?
I'm surprised this gold myth still perpetuates when so many sources claim that by selling the gold at a discount price, the banks were able to hoover it up avoiding a global recession which would have otherwise left the UK in a very bad state. It would be naïve to think he did not understand the implications of announcing the sell-off prior to actually selling it (especially looking at his career prior to entering politics on Wiki). The fact he was considered to head up the IMF is testament to that.
 
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I'm surprised this gold myth still perpetuates when so many sources claim that by selling the gold at a discount price, the banks were able to hoover it up avoiding a global recession which would have otherwise left the UK in a very bad state. It would be naïve to think he did not understand the implications of announcing the sell-off prior to actually selling it (especially looking at his career prior to entering politics on Wiki). The fact he was considered to head up the IMF is testament to that.
As opposed to going into a major recession without any gold reserves? The man was a one eyed,
nappy wearing Scottish idiot. The Scots probably love him, he's done more damage to England than Bonnie Prince Charlie and the SNP combined.
 
As opposed to going into a major recession without any gold reserves? The man was a one eyed,
nappy wearing Scottish idiot. The Scots probably love him, he's done more damage to England than Bonnie Prince Charlie and the SNP combined.
He sold off 100 percent of our gold?

The articles I've read have said his decision was the correct one (FT is a key one that springs to mind). I may have missed them, but the only sources which claim the decision was misguided tend to be non-technical sources that typically just like to criticise Labour.
 
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My bold.. sorry I could not let that faux pas go unchallenged. Intelligent? This is the man that singlehandedly f**ked our economy up during his years as chancellor, giving notice to the world & selling our gold at a ludicrously cheap price. A two faced hypocrite calling a lifelong Labour supporter a racist/bigot behind her back, forgetting his mike was still on, for daring to question him on Labours wisdom in inviting millions of immigrants in whilst lying about it. The man whose inability to control our banking system allowed the crash to happen?
No, GB was indeed intelligent. He just used his intelligence to push his socialist beliefs beyond what would normally be considered safe. That he was intolerant of others, particularly those he considered to be of lesser intelligence, is a hallmark of such people, you must have come across them in the AF, I certainly did.

All people make mistakes, politicians though rarely admit theirs or pay for them. I blame Brown for the loss of so many lives because of his refusing to properly fund the excursions in Iraq and Afghanistan until it was too late and too many lives had been lost, in fact I believe it was the threat of losing total public support that loosened the purse strings slightly.
 
He was actually a pretty decent type, for a socialist.
Not entirely sure about the Socialist bit Oddbod.
Before he died he was intending to carry on the work of Hugh Gaitskell in abolishing Clause IV of the Labour Party Constitution which basically defined the British Labour Party as a Socialist outfit.
Blair later picked up on this and abolished Clause IV albeit in an altered form.

I liked John Smith and agree that he was probably one of the best prime ministers that we never had.
The last of a type so to speak.
 
IIRC, Brown's selling off a significant amount of the GB's gold reserves was mostly done in anticipation of Blair's desire to replace Sterling with the Euro.
 
My partner was at school with Brown, she says he was a bit of a rascal, as well as being a good sportsperson and was in trouble quite a lot. He was/is an intelligent guy but I wouldn't trust him.
 

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M'eh, it's nearly half-a-century ago..... I haven't used what's left of my Latin since the fourth form when I managed to deliberately fcek up the tests enough to be transferred to the dimwits' class for Classical Studies. Gratias Deo.
A furcifer.
There are others.
 

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He was genuinely polite, as was Mrs B (met her, smart as a whip and very likeable), unlike the predecessors fake smile (him) and icy/entitled countenance (her).
They agreed that Mr B was a very intelligent guy, far better company than the previous incumbent...
So Mr and Mrs McBrown agree that Mr McBrown is more intelligent and far better company than his predecessor.
No surprise there then.

Mrs McB cant be that likeable if he had to prod his elsewhere.
 
And what do they say about the incumbent?
Did nothing without a spin doctors brief. Smiles were plastic, which was preferable to
So Mr and Mrs McBrown agree that Mr McBrown is more intelligent and far better company than his predecessor.
No surprise there then.

Mrs McB cant be that likeable if he had to prod his elsewhere.
I do wish people would read posts.

No, their close protection officers (Prots) were of the opinion that they were better company, nicer people, and smarter than the Blair's.
 
My bold.. sorry I could not let that faux pas go unchallenged. Intelligent? This is the man that singlehandedly f**ked our economy up during his years as chancellor, giving notice to the world & selling our gold at a ludicrously cheap price. A two faced hypocrite calling a lifelong Labour supporter a racist/bigot behind her back, forgetting his mike was still on, for daring to question him on Labours wisdom in inviting millions of immigrants in whilst lying about it. The man whose inability to control our banking system allowed the crash to happen?
By the time Gordon moved into No 10, following his over a decade spell as Chancellor, British taxpayers were paying higher levels of tax than the Germans.
It was also his decision to tinker with the method of collecting Corporation Tax, which ultimately led to the demise of most of the final salary pension funds in the UK.
He may have been intelligent and a Socialists wet dream, but for most of us, he was a nightmare.
 
So Mr and Mrs McBrown agree that Mr McBrown is more intelligent and far better company than his predecessor.
No surprise there then.

Mrs McB cant be that likeable if he had to prod his elsewhere.
Mate of mine had the misfortune to be in a meeting with Brown in No 10 when he picked up a fixed line telephone and threw it at a wall, smashing it into a thousand bits when he heard something he didnt like.

He's a bully and an utter tw@t apparently
 

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