Redress of sjar/sc

Hi,

I have been looking at the SC system for redress of the SJAR. I did not fill out the comments box as everyone told me not to as its the box of death.

I have never challenged a SJAR. After 24 hours I realised I made a mistake and should have done the comments.

The SJAR was referred to the CO for his bit almost straight away. I requested an interview with the CO who went against the 1RO and changed my grade from a dev to a yes, just by a small chat.

I then went through the SJAR and what I had done etc. I found 8 areas of in factual information and much factual information left out. I now know the the SC system but worry I am doing the right thing. I have 65 MB of data to back my facts.

Will this bite me in the arse? Should I back down and be grateful of my CO's bit. I just have an SJAR that is in factual 1RO says dev the 2RO says yes, the board will not look at this SJAR favourable.

Cheers

 

how long in rank are you, bearing in mind that you have to be 2+ to promote

 

3 years plus isn't it?


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Depends on Cap badge and current rank. For example for a RIFLES Cpl to promote to Sjt it is 4 years

 

3 and a half years, I am able to select.

 

Well I did the best job I could in my input my notes were ignored. My line managers were not even asked, bottom line I can prove the in factual information. I have been in the Army 16 years and had good SJARs, bad SJARS and excellent ones. I have never complained but in this case I have been wronged. I am lucky as it is the first time it has happened and the Army has always treated me fairly. I am not to concerned about coming off the board at this time but a few officers have told me that a Dev will hold me back.

You are right in saying what will it achieve? If it could harm me in the near future then I should lodge a complaint based on factual evidence. The problem with this sort of thing is that everyone thinks they should get a better SJAR or be positioned higher, so looking on this site people are hostile towards those who have an issue with their SJAR.

I was top for the last two years but now I am 3rd (different command group). It is the last chance of those above me to get their Warrants and is political. This opinion is felt by the line managers who have been ignored. I am experienced and know what warrants a mention in an SJAR what it takes for promotion. However when a write up is wrong and evidence to support it is there should I continue with the SC or leave it alone? The guys above me need this for their SSM and its their last chance. I am pleased for them but my SJAR is wrong and it could hold me back.

What I was hoping for was someone with experience with SJARS to help me consider the impact of a Dev. I have never had a Dev and have always been in the top 3 whether I was able to promote or not. It is the weakest report I have ever had yet its been one of my strongest performances with critical information left out. I know he did not want me promoted yet and he was worried I would promote if the SJAR was written so. The promotion policy is one thing but sometimes an OC can be wrong in thinking you should do a set time in rank before he considers you ready, regardless of your merits. This was told to my face. Is this the right of an OC or is it wrong to against policy and apply his own rules? When your peers have not done what you have done but have done 4 years more than you and are friendly with key people is it right that a unfair report is sanctioned?

When I talked with the CO he told me his part counted and that he can disagree with 1 RO. This was an informal chat. The 1RO said he would not budge on grades. I was happy with grade not the Dev, I did not deserve a unreservedly recommendation but I really really did not deserve a Dev and 90% of my achievements left out. The CO said I would have to make a formal complaint to get anything further changed. My mistake for not doing the comments box as I advised not to by people above me??

 

Yes, so he has tried to hold me back.

Thanks for your notes, its normally for year 1 Yes building from yes recommended to yes high strongly year 4 that is the average at the moment. This grade will set me back 4 years.

WOW there is no way the OC meant for this but due to him being the first time in a command slot I can see how he has done it. Higher 3rd Yes middle third Dev, lower third no

 

Duke this I appreciate the advice. My hope is that once the 1RO and the investigator sees the evidence I have, they will see I did a lot better than suggested. I cannot do anything about the opinion as its his right.

Thank you

 

That's the best advice I've read for a while. Looking out for number one doesn't come natural to a NCO/SNCO, if I did, you wouldn't be wearing the rank. However, sometimes enough is enough and you have to speak up over the usual 'subjective performance measures' that are reports. Sometimes, you will not come between the favourite, irrespective how well you've done.

Speak out and have courage in your convictions...you clearly have evidence.


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Duke offers good advice on this. If I was on a seniors board (I've done quite a few) my eye would certainly be caught by a change from Dev to Yes between 1RO and 2RO. Net result is that I'd look more closely at previous reports in more detail than I might otherwise have done. A gently worded repudiation of this years report could help this but the key point would be what the last couple of reports said. If you have generally been reported on as average then that's the score you're going to get. If you've previously been a star and this report is viewed as a rogue then you may well get the benefit of the doubt.

Only you can judge what to put in a redress but it's worth thinking hard about how to word it, and taking advice from people you trust (who, ideally, can write well).

 

Thanks for the advice and the insight.