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Recruitment Vs Retention

#1
In the days of the great war we didn't have to worry about getting the right amount of troops for the job, people just wandered into the local recruiting station and joined up. I think the army should move into the 21 century and forget sending the recruiting tram downtown because it just isn't working.
. We should focus on retention instead wasting money on recruitment people shouldn't have to be persuaded to join. I believe the bounty should be increased to 12 shillings and CFT increased to 8 miles followed by a bayonet charge this would get rid of the dead wood in the TA's

Your thoughts on this please.

Regards,

Tommycooker1914
 
#3
I've been looking at your profile and you appear to be a bit of a chopper.

On a serious note, wouldn't this sort of thing be better off in the Military History forum? We don't want to put real recruits off from joining the TA, because they think they might be stuck with clowns like you.
 
#4
StabTiffy2B said:
I've been looking at your profile and you appear to be a bit of a chopper.

On a serious note, wouldn't this sort of thing be better off in the Military History forum? We don't want to put real recruits off from joining the TA, because they think they might be stuck with clowns like you.
your the chopper sunshine, if your getting offended by my posts don't read them or better still join army net. Plus theirs a sub forum for recruits if you haven't noticed people are probably more put off joining by boring F-wits like you!.
 
#7
We should focus on retention instead wasting money on recruitment people shouldn't have to be persuaded to join
Aye, but people may not know what the TA really entails and so maybe wouldnt even consider it, even though it might turn out to be somethign they enjoy.
 
#8
OK chums here's a "what would you do" question:

Plan A: A weekend of navigation and patrolling over the Ardgartan Peninsula with some section size attacks thrown in on the Sunday.
Plan B: A 10 hour coach trip to London on the Saturday followed by a Sunday handing out leaflets at the London Marathon, followed by a 10 hour coach trip back to Glasgow arriving home in time for breakfast on the Monday.

Clue: One plan is the OC's the other the CO's
 
#9
GoodIdeaAtTheTime said:
OK chums here's a "what would you do" question:

Plan A: A weekend of navigation and patrolling over the Ardgartan Peninsula with some section size attacks thrown in on the Sunday.
Plan B: A 10 hour coach trip to London on the Saturday followed by a Sunday handing out leaflets at the London Marathon, followed by a 10 hour coach trip back to Glasgow arriving home in time for breakfast on the Monday.

Clue: One plan is the OC's the other the CO's
I would obviously plump for Plan A but I suspect the CO had a slightly more high profile and higher MTD cost plan? He is obviously a k-nob but will no doubt explain that to HM the Queen when collecting his OBE...
 
#10
GoodIdeaAtTheTime said:
OK chums here's a "what would you do" question:

Plan A: A weekend of navigation and patrolling over the Ardgartan Peninsula with some section size attacks thrown in on the Sunday.
Plan B: A 10 hour coach trip to London on the Saturday followed by a Sunday handing out leaflets at the London Marathon, followed by a 10 hour coach trip back to Glasgow arriving home in time for breakfast on the Monday.

Clue: One plan is the OC's the other the CO's
Well, it's obvious which one is best. Can't beat a day out in London anytime!

I think the point tommycooker is making is that if we get the image right, we won't need to recruit.
 
#13
The thing with the TA more so then the Regs (assuming on this one so please prove wrong if I am) is that for most soldiers it is their secondary employment and is viewed upon as a lower priority in the grand scheme. Personally Im a student and have devoted way above the required MTDs as I really enjoy it, sadly the realities of my impending doom.. sorry graduation!! mean that im having to increasingly devote my weekends to my coursework :( In other cases, would you turn down for example a promotion in your civvy job which would make a massive (positive) difference to you but would mean missing out on TA weekends?
My point is (finally!) we need to keep driving for recruits as sadly most TA soldiers must place their main job and family needs 1st and we risk losing operational effectivness if we keep making too many allowances for absence.
Perhaps the real issue with recruitment is change the methods used? Im bored sh*tless about having to constantly do the same walk about town which on an exceptional day we may actually get one person throught the door who then only leaves a few weeks later because they realise its not for them!!
 
#14
GoodIdeaAtTheTime said:
OK chums here's a "what would you do" question:

Plan A: A weekend of navigation and patrolling over the Ardgartan Peninsula with some section size attacks thrown in on the Sunday.
Plan B: A 10 hour coach trip to London on the Saturday followed by a Sunday handing out leaflets at the London Marathon, followed by a 10 hour coach trip back to Glasgow arriving home in time for breakfast on the Monday.

Clue: One plan is the OC's the other the CO's
And once again the complete failure of a regular soldier to understand that the TA is not our actual job strikes again.
 
#15
I'm not against recruiting totally I think potential recruits must be made aware of the facts I.e commitment levels pay etc. I believe there's nothing stronger than the heart of a volunteer that's what makes us better than the regs. Too much money is been wasted on people who don't want it bad enough
 
#16
GoodIdeaAtTheTime said:
OK chums here's a "what would you do" question:

Plan A: A weekend of navigation and patrolling over the Ardgartan Peninsula with some section size attacks thrown in on the Sunday.
Plan B: A 10 hour coach trip to London on the Saturday followed by a Sunday handing out leaflets at the London Marathon, followed by a 10 hour coach trip back to Glasgow arriving home in time for breakfast on the Monday.

Clue: One plan is the OC's the other the CO's
GIAT

Stay out of London and we'll stay out of Scotland! Deal?!
 
#17
tommycooker1914 said:
Too much money is been wasted on people who don't want it bad enough
Very true.. sadly. I had the task of giving some recruits some informal weapons training on a drill night and one of them just simply couldn't be bothered! This was the one who had just passed RSW and it was plain to see he wasn't interested and I will bet any money on him simply walking out before completing phase one. It was extremally frustrating to keep having to say things like "no can you stop waving that rifle at me make sure you have a proper hold on it" without adding "For f**ks sake you f**king mong a untrained chimp would have caught on after the 20th time being told!!"
Unfortuantly I had to be the 'pally' bloke so he didn't just think all he is going to get is being shouted at and walk out. It does increasing look like a numbers game so that the CO can go and show how many people are joining us rather then actually focusing on recruiting those with an intention of staying
 
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#18
GoodIdeaAtTheTime said:
Plan B: A 10 hour coach trip to London on the Saturday followed by a Sunday handing out leaflets at the London Marathon, followed by a 10 hour coach trip back to Glasgow arriving home in time for breakfast on the Monday.
If the cheap git forked out for a flight down instead of a 10hr coach then he might attract more interest.
I don’t see the logic really, leafleting around London is more likely to produce recruits for London then yourself :?

Is he keen to waste your budget??
 
#19
^ If I were you I'd have to have opted for your second option. Get the little fcuker told that what he is holding is a fcuking dangerous piece of equipment and if he points it in anyones direction again (unless he intends to pull the trigger) you will rip it out of his hands and ram it up his arrse!
He obviously intending on leaving, then fcuk him, let him leave having learnt a very good lesson, DO NOT POINT A FCUKING WEAPON IN JEST!

And if it came back to bite you then tell them he's a throbber with no concept of safe weapon handling.
 
#20
Agreed Devilish, it was ridiculaslly tempting!!!! Though im a mere pte and our RTT Sgt is one intimidating f*cker when he wants to be!! In the event I focused most of my wisdom on the guy who actually wanted to learn, thought it best not to rock the boat for me getting further oppertunities to demonstrate why I should go on JNCO cadre!!
 

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