Recruiting - what the hells going on?

#1
Any one doing it right out there? if you are - how?
Because most of us ain't
 
#2
Wich recruting , reg´s or Ta. , our unit ( 412 Tp. R.E. ) or pulling in loads of bods , ( and girls ) , so where´s youre problem
 
#3
we get plenty in to the TAC. problems always been 1 of retention rather than recruiting, especially now we have the crusades to fight

to be honest though, I have no idea how we pull anybody in. the organised recruiting days are a farce. what we need is a stand with lots of things that go bang, not a few leaflets with the obligatory smiling-female-soldier-with-token-two-stripes-of-camcream-im-too-good-looking-to-be-in-the-army-features
 
#4
Same problem in my unit. we get enough through the door but they don not stay. cmsr is far too long winded. As for TA Open Week, what a disaster. Nobody above the rank of cpl was interested they think people will just rock up and want to visit us. they suddenly got an inkling that this was not going to happen and put out posters and leaflets on the same day. So much for the 7 p's.. :?. After a dire attendance they are hopefully now going to rethink their strategy.
 
#5
Try our trick , we do weekend training ,( were just different) , bring the new bods in on saterday morning ,rag them around , Pt , sat trainer , etc , then mega BBQ in the evening , works a treat , got 50+ in our troop ;-)
 
#6
Well we'll have to see what the Open Days are like tomorrow (7th), more than likely just the local tin foil hat wearing loonies and cadets clambering over the kit...oh joy 8O
 
#8
It would be simple if we were blessed with a SAT or even a decent PTI (not some stick insect resembling bloke who turns up rarely, and would know a Rifle from a cock mag), or indeed anything remotely interesting to people. unfortunately our TAC is only equipped with a 25m range and thats it. The seniors have some kind of foil helmet on which totally switches off their ability to see their old "leaflets and smiles" campaigns don't work. I think our best tactic, and one we have tried to pass up the chain, is going to the local 6th form collages and Uni (there are so many students round here). Dont send in the usual entorage of some Sgt, or Maj or something, just people their age who know what they want out of it and have been where they are. if u go there and tell them about the money, bounty, laughs, piss ups, and opportunities, i think theres a really good chance that they'd turn up. could be way off target, but its an idea.
 
#9
We Started doing that for a summer recruiting initiative. problem is the leftie, dope smoking, beard walloper teachers that go on about iraq. got loads of enquirys from birds but being an infantry unit we are only allowed so many :cry: . Another stupid ruling, if we had more babes then more guys would come along for a piece of the action :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
 
#10
412 TP would be easy to recruit for since its the only TA ynit in BFG and theres an unknown numbers of you lot who sold your soul to leather trousers, sausages and yeasty boxhead lager! 64 C3S (ex) Be - Depressed! :)
 
#11
I think it might be a good idea to have a sticky thread on here about recruiting and retention, to see all the ideas and things that's going on across the UK.
 
#12
One of our Sqn has tried inbreeding, regularly on weekends find a new recruit s whose parents I served with! (Downside is it takes a while for this inbreeding to get recruits thro the door)

Whats a little strange is I was originally in a Infantry unit and these new recruits have joined Sigs. Officially the Inf and Sigs didn't merge at SDR but the old regimental loyalty has passed onto the Sigs.
 
#13
Got a PowerPoint, Speaker Notes and Commitments Pack which has worked pretty well for me in the past. Happy to email the set to anyone who emails me their ArmyMail or Unit email address. Happy to deliver presentation personally to any unit in 51 Bde.
 
#14
megadeth said:
Try our trick , we do weekend training ,( were just different) , bring the new bods in on saterday morning ,rag them around , Pt , sat trainer , etc , then mega BBQ in the evening , works a treat , got 50+ in our troop ;-)
Sounds like an excellent idea - I've just started going through the motions of my basic training... TAFS and whatever.

Would be a great way to introduce people with what to expect from the TA - I only knew of the TA, and some of the functions of the army because I was a cadet and a cadet at my detachment joined my local unit 3 years ago (while I pissed my life away at uni) :)

It might also filter those that have NO chance of achieving the right mindset that's required to get yourself in-shape for the ATRA 2 week course... On my TAFS weekend I know there were a few people who will get RTU'd if their unit signs them off (for their own sake I hope they don't!)

I might actually put this idea forward on Tuesday - Nice one!
 
#15
Jimbleep said:
I've just started going through the motions of my basic training...

I only knew of the TA, and some of the functions of the army because I was a cadet and a cadet at my detachment joined my local unit 3 years ago (while I pissed my life away at uni) :)
Is this still the case, did similar only found out about TA cause of people joining from my cadets (ATC) in the 80's. Guess many others only discover the TA thro work mates/family, with a large proportion of the population thinking the TA adverts are for the regular army. Wonder if the slogan on my TAC was changed from 'Join the Territorial Army here' to 'apply here for paid part work on some weekends and Tuesday nights', that may get more interest?
 
#16
Yeah, well I don't know actually - our unit has a pretty good turnout of recruits - we're only a small unit but we've got (myself included) 6 recruits and 15 Sigs on the books... Obviously - units are going to have different approaches to recruiting - because certain people want certain roles out of the army but I do agree with your point, in that, they don't see the TA as flexible.

Maybe if the national advertising campaigns focussed on the flexibility of the TA as opposed to how equivalent to the reg. army it was, they might have better recruitment figures.

Personally, I think we need to drive the flexibility aspect of it... People don't want their civvie jobs to suffer...
 
#17
Our PSAO contacts those leaving the regular army and moving into our area. He's got several people in that way in the past two years, think TAVRA supplies the list.
 

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#18
Jimbleep said:
Personally, I think we need to drive the flexibility aspect of it... People don't want their civvie jobs to suffer...
But they know that they will.... I can give you examples of employment problems suffered by people I have served with; in most cases they say 'stuff your job' and carry on soldiering - but will this stop new people joining? Of course it will.

My solution? radical, but tell them they are only committed to ONE operational tour in their time, and that only if called upon by National emergency (although they can 'volunteer' to be avaialalbe for other call-outs). By this, I DON'T mean helping the Regular Army out over shortages of key enablers. And National Emergency has to be just that - not a Crusade against people you don't like, living a long way away.

Bit of a rant, I know, but until the top-of-the-Office here realise one thing, I believe we will still have trouble recruiting. That is - if you want to go on regular operational tours, you join the Army. If you want to defend your Country when needed, join the TA. It's a world of difference :roll:
 
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polar said:
Our PSAO contacts those leaving the regular army and moving into our area. He's got several people in that way in the past two years, think TAVRA supplies the list.
Yes they do - system known as ARCADE - most PSAOs should have a system on their desk. It's a recruit lead management system and contact letter generator. In theory leads are allocated strictly on a postcode-closest-to-TAC basis. :wink: Suggest if you have a very pro-active PSAO who gets on well with the RFCA (formerly TAVRA) you may get more than your fair share.

When you make contact to invite the individual along ask them who else they would like to bring with them and get their details as well.

Big secret to recruiting - there is no single magic formula, just lots and lots of individual initiatives each of which will get you one or two recruits at a time. Moral of the story - Do Lots!

Try a drive round industrial estates at the weekends. If you find big factories and big warehouses which are normally open during the week but closed Sats and Suns you can organise someone from your unit to visit during the week and put notices up in the canteen (friendly employers are always going to be those with the least to lose)

Job Centres will a) put up "Part-Time" employment ads for you. b) give you town-centre interview (recruiting) facilities c) invite you to jobs fairs which they pay for. They will also send you some real unemployable, drugged-up dross but they're easily filtered out and we have got some cracking guys (and girls) this way.

Infantry units with an embargo on recruiting females - if you are a corps unit, make sure they send the females to you or allow you to send a female recruiter to them.

Most RFCAs will give you a grant for Bring-a-Friend nights.

The value of recruiting from Cadet units is debatable (in as much as those that want to join will probably do so anyway and we don't want to diminish the regular army recruiting effort) but we have had success with bring-a-big brother nights (challenge competition for a .22 shoot a great hook and then offer a chance for big bruv to show off by getting into the grown-up unit)

Unit posters in Chip Shops, Barbers, Dentists, etc but make sure and change it every 2 to 3 weeks.

Make recruitment an inter-troop / inter-platoon competition.

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Come on arrsers - suggest some more.
 
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