recommend me an all-round .22RF

#1
got a an empty slot on my ticket for a .22RF, and just got a few quid in the bank from a job.

Would like something 'all-round' - ie a bit of bunny bashing and range/gallery type stuff along with general fun that comes from nice cheap ammo, unlike my HMR and .243

the 'go to' seems to be a Ruger 10/22 semi auto - but is there anything else that I really ought to look before taking the plunge?

Have seen the .22 MP5 and similar clones and they look fun, but somebody pointed me towards the ATI stocks, which take the 10/22 upper and don't scare the horses in the same way as the 'military' guns

probably less waltish and better than being seen in the fields shooting bunnies with an 'assault rifle'?
 
#3
Semi-autos are not accurate enough for bunnies IMHO. They will jam, note will, not may.

Bolt action CZ and you cannot go wrong, very accurate, I can hit a staple at 50m.

Having said that... The gats you memntion are both semi-autos so your slot must be for a semi. I have a 10/22 it's very good TBH and lets face it, you can make it look like whatever you want. A MP5 clone will alway be an MP5 clone.
 
#4
They will jam if you don't feed them the right ammo, my cooey refused to feed CCI Stingers, but quite happly ate Imperial, Winchester, and Remington 22 LR, as well as the Remington Yellow Jacket hyper velocity rounds. Never had a problem with hitting a bunny in the head at up to 50 yards or so.
 
#5
I'd suggest a BSA Supersport or similar for rabbits and then have a "fun gun" as well. You can pick up an old BSA for a fiver at auction and they are very accurate and reliable.

Most 22 semi autos are much less reliable in my experience so keep them for the range.
 

ugly

LE
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#6
There is no requirement for a semi slot for a .22rf, the law and guidance is clear the slot should be for rifle .22rf, your choice!
 
#7
I shoot a CZ452 & it is a super little rifle.

The newer 455 is even better. A mate has a target version of the latter & once dialled in for use with a suppressor & Eley hollow point subsonics & we regularly kill bunnies with it out to 150yds.
 

ugly

LE
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#8
I shoot a CZ452 & it is a super little rifle.

The newer 455 is even better. A mate has a target version of the latter & once dialled in for use with a suppressor & Eley hollow point subsonics & we regularly kill bunnies with it out to 150yds.
The CZ is a fine and rifle enough type of gun, however take out the bolt in the shop and inspect the inside of the receiver, one or two I have seen with a rough finish inside, not enough to affect the operation but enough tooling marks to bother the unsuspecting owner and by the time its on your ticket its a bit late!
 
#9
Thanks for the pointers

my .17 HMR is a CZ452 - and yes, as accurate as could ever matter with me on the operating end, and what I usually use for bunnies

so it looks like I should concentrate on making this a 'fun gun' then- :)

in which case - any advice on a 10/22 with ATI stock gratefully received:

 
#11
Semi-autos are not accurate enough for bunnies IMHO.
Bollocks. My 10/22 groups .8" at 50 yds with Winchester Super X subsonics, even with my biff shooting. You hear only two things, the bolt smacking forwards again and the hollow thud as the round hits the bunny's head. It is fussy on the ammo though, Eley subs are nearly as good but are noisier (the farms I shoot on are mainly close to houses), Remingtons OK, but too many fliers, and CCI make the target look as if I've got Parkinson's.
 
#14
You can tart a 10/22 up so it's as accurate as any off the shelf CZ452 but it seems the more you swap the internals out the fussier they get with ammo. I've got a S&W 15-22 and with decent ammo it will hold a 10mm group out of a rest at 25yds, granted it's no Anschutz, but it's decent for a semi and it will cycle pretty much anything and still work reliably when filthy, unlike the 10/22. The GSG and Umarex offerings seem to be significantly worse. The CZ is a nice gat though, if I did shoot bunnys I'd probably have one.
 
#15
Anschutz XIV Carbine thumb-hole stock is very accurate and quiet with moderator fitted, I picked one up second hand but hardly used, its only down side is I find the butt stock to short for me and new price is quite steep.
 
#16
Nowt wrong with CZ if you are after a bolt action, self loading rifles are usually fussy about ammo and don't like either the low or high performance end, that was my experience with an Anschutz with subsonic and viper, I suspect the Ruger won't differ much.

My favourite .22 rifles are: my current Krico model 301 bolt action......



....no end of consistency and reliability! And my first ever .22, an ancient, yet reliable BSA pump action which made massive inroads in the local bunny and vermin populations......



I had this one with the tube magazine, Savage and Winchester made almost identical rifles, fast and loads of fun to shoot!
 
#17
Bollocks. My 10/22 groups .8" at 50 yds with Winchester Super X subsonics, even with my biff shooting. You hear only two things, the bolt smacking forwards again and the hollow thud as the round hits the bunny's head. It is fussy on the ammo though, Eley subs are nearly as good but are noisier (the farms I shoot on are mainly close to houses), Remingtons OK, but too many fliers, and CCI make the target look as if I've got Parkinson's.
True enough. Ammo is the limiting factor, currently using Lapua Centre-X in my 10/22 by accident rather than design and it does very well.

Main cause of malfunctions in 10/22's outside of mechanical failures seems to be improper cleaning, the works getting gummed up with residue & made rapidly worse if the rounds come covered with too much lubricant.
 

ugly

LE
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#18
Snip;
"Main cause of malfunctions in 10/22's outside of mechanical failures seems to be improper cleaning, the works getting gummed up with residue & made rapidly worse if the rounds come covered with too much lubricant. "
always a problem with .22rf esp Eley ammo. it would gum up the extractor on a martini. I prefer a cleaner round like anything CCI or Lapua. Green tag for targets and subsonic for bunnies and charlie although I tend to use the .17 now more for charlies.
 
#19
Bollocks. My 10/22 groups .8" at 50 yds with Winchester Super X subsonics, even with my biff shooting. You hear only two things, the bolt smacking forwards again and the hollow thud as the round hits the bunny's head. It is fussy on the ammo though, Eley subs are nearly as good but are noisier (the farms I shoot on are mainly close to houses), Remingtons OK, but too many fliers, and CCI make the target look as if I've got Parkinson's.
Up to you of course. I agree of course about ammo selection but everyone I know who has used a semi for bunnies has gone back to bolt action, everyone.
 
#20
There is no requirement for a semi slot for a .22rf, the law and guidance is clear the slot should be for rifle .22rf, your choice!
Our lot absolutley make the distinction between semi and bolt at application. You cannot apply for a ".22lr" and leave it at that, you must say the type of action. Remember, different forces have their own little ideas.
 

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