Reclassification of Cannabis

#1
Home Office Circular

Now the cynic in me thinks that they dropped it from Class B to C to appear 'in touch with the youth of today' or hip and modern. They've finally realised the folly of their ways and are reclassifying it.

I can see the spin now, "Look how we're being hard line, we've reclassified Cannabis, tough on crime, tough on the causes etc...." :x
 
#2
Cannabis with a tetra-hydrol-canibilol(?) or THC content above 10% should be class 'A'

Thats Skunk Weed. Nasty stuff.

All this Class A,B,C* bollocks gets way from the essential fact. People who take drugs are criminals, and often drug taking is just another aspect of their criminality. None of them should be viewed as addicts or some kind of socio-medical victims.

People who take drugs are in the main, dull, unreliable and un-trustworthy people. The Courts should stop pandering to them and start punishing them.

*C can cover prescribed drugs and is a bit of a grey area. Personal use: Possibly unwise but probably not criminal. Intent to supply others, even for free: Criminal
 

Biped

LE
Book Reviewer
#3
They've been trying to classify it correctly for years, but just as they're about to do it pffffft, they just give up . . . . . man.






Yellow cab please, yes, to No. 32, thanks.
 

Command_doh

LE
Book Reviewer
#4
Weed, regardless of what the liberal masses would have you believe, leads to much harder and more unsavoury drug abuse, associated crime and the fallout that brings. In a lot of cases. Seen it first hand.
 

old_fat_and_hairy

LE
Book Reviewer
Reviews Editor
#5
The main problem with cannabis, and the THC content, is the efefct it has on the brain. I'm not smoking it and I can't spell effect!
 
#6
Command_doh said:
Weed, regardless of what the liberal masses would have you believe, leads to much harder and more unsavoury drug abuse, associated crime and the fallout that brings. In a lot of cases. Seen it first hand.
You're right, in many cases it does lead to 'harder' drug use. However, even if it doesn't, weed itself can lead to paranoia and obsessive compulsive dissorder. A major proportion of crime is carried out to fund a drug habit. Some hard drug users are funding a £200 a day habit, that is an awful lot of petty crime on a day in day out basis.
 
#7
Mr_Deputy said:
this was a complete and utter balls up. talk about giving out the wrong messages.

"drugs are illegal, no they arent, yes they are...oh even we dont know."

tw4ts. no wonder many 'youffs' have no respect for the law and the system. the law and the system needs to be beyond reproach not farcical.
Bang on. The government gave the scro.... er, alleged offenders, the ideal opportunity to use the reclassification farce as an excuse to say they were confused and thought cannabis had been legalised. Whereas previously if cannabis was recovered it was black and white, they were arrested. When the law was changed, if drugs were found, even the bobbies weren't sure how to deal with it. Usual conversation went like this:

Cop 1: I've found some blow on you mate
Offender: So what, s'legal innit!
Cop 1: No, it's still illegal. I am going to check you out on the PNC and if you're not wanted, you will be given a street caution.
Offender: Yeah safe geez. I won't do it again
Cop 2: But only if you don't have any previous for drugs.....
Cop 1: And if you're not near a school...
Offender: You told me I was gonna be cautioned. Yo, you fittin me up...
Cop 1: No, we are complying with the latest government legislation , working in parallel with force policy.....probably
Cop 2: PNC result shows you have no previous for drugs...you're on your way with a street caution mate
Offender: Safe, safe, seen
Cop 1: Hold on, there are other members of public about, and they tell me you were smoking it openly. That is classed as an aggravating factor, and you are liable to arrest....
Offender: You bastards, you locking me up?
Cop 1:Yes
Cop 2: Custody Sarge is gonna love us
Cop 1: And CPS will ask why he wasn't given a street caution
Cop 2: Oh ballcocks, what now
Offender (smiling) There's a drain over there officer
Cops 1 and 2: Good shout. Bacon and egg sarnie time.....

Allegedly :wink:
 
#8
Does that include you and your mates smoking tobacco and drinking beer, or are they just different because someone decided not to make them illegal?
And do you think all of the 15 million or so people in the UK who've tried one drug or another are unreliable odd-balls?
 

Command_doh

LE
Book Reviewer
#9
Markintime said:
Command_doh said:
Weed, regardless of what the liberal masses would have you believe, leads to much harder and more unsavoury drug abuse, associated crime and the fallout that brings. In a lot of cases. Seen it first hand.
You're right, in many cases it does lead to 'harder' drug use. However, even if it doesn't, weed itself can lead to paranoia and obsessive compulsive dissorder. A major proportion of crime is carried out to fund a drug habit. Some hard drug users are funding a £200 a day habit, that is an awful lot of petty crime on a day in day out basis.
A guy I once knew started off doing the old 'Weed, speed, trips, clubs' thing, leading eventually to smoking and injecting heroin via everything else on the way. He ended up doing time for manslaughter in assisting someone shoot up - the guy died in a railway station toilet. And another guy who was my Superivor in Iceland (the Katona slag company, not the bankrupt country) died of a Heroin overdose. Sh1t, now I think about it, another mates Dad died of a methadone overdose...bad sh it drugs.
 
#10
Markintime said:
Command_doh said:
Weed, regardless of what the liberal masses would have you believe, leads to much harder and more unsavoury drug abuse, associated crime and the fallout that brings. In a lot of cases. Seen it first hand.
You're right, in many cases it does lead to 'harder' drug use. However, even if it doesn't, weed itself can lead to paranoia and obsessive compulsive dissorder. A major proportion of crime is carried out to fund a drug habit. Some hard drug users are funding a £200 a day habit, that is an awful lot of petty crime on a day in day out basis.
The trouble is when kids start smokin cannabis in their early teens! they would never believe what it leads to. As adults we all know it leads to 'harder' drug use. The chemicals used to grow cannabis make make it even worst, but the classification doesn't help and sends the wrong message.

But are the goverment right to be looking at the 'harder' drugs out there, look at other 'harder' drugs, dealers are puttin anything in, literally anything out the kitchen cuboard!
 

Command_doh

LE
Book Reviewer
#11
speedybham said:
Markintime said:
Command_doh said:
Weed, regardless of what the liberal masses would have you believe, leads to much harder and more unsavoury drug abuse, associated crime and the fallout that brings. In a lot of cases. Seen it first hand.
You're right, in many cases it does lead to 'harder' drug use. However, even if it doesn't, weed itself can lead to paranoia and obsessive compulsive dissorder. A major proportion of crime is carried out to fund a drug habit. Some hard drug users are funding a £200 a day habit, that is an awful lot of petty crime on a day in day out basis.
The trouble is when kids start smokin cannabis in their early teens! they would never believe what it leads to. As adults we all know it leads to 'harder' drug use. The chemicals used to grow cannabis make make it even worst, but the classification doesn't help and sends the wrong message.

But are the goverment right to be looking at the 'harder' drugs out there, look at other 'harder' drugs, dealers are puttin anything in, literally anything out the kitchen cuboard!
Never mind the chemicals at source, what about the sh it some of this stuff is cut with? Rat poison, bleach, brick dust, to name but a few. Icing Sugar is used to 'thin out' coke and crack - which is just a money making thing, but Cannabis Resin often contains vinyl and other chemical additives to 'bulk it out'. People really have no idea what they are sticking up their noses, in their gobs or into their veins.
 
#12
Mr_Deputy said:
i know about drugs and i'm just not in favour of them. finito.
i have an adopted brother who was hooked on heroin, i've known people enjoy them responsibly and happily but many done same and let their lives slip so slowly into unhappiness they cant see it nore the effect on health. i know far less affected severely by booze. people might have a drink prob for a bit and get so fed up with it they get fit again. be honest you can't enjoy a healthy meal with an E or a spliff can you? Spilff ruins your appetite and the last thing you want to do on most drugs is eat. A glass of wine or a couple of beers doesnt change your whole charcter and the way you come across to others while ONE spliff or ONE line of coke/ONE half an E can.


fags
drugs of all types

are bad news in my mind. mainly because of the amount of idiots who abuse them. like anything ...guns etc it would be great if those of us who wanted to partake in something like that could do so legally (I wouldn't mind once every fifth birthday having a legal E and having a great night it would prob be excellent) ...but the thing is the massive amount of idiots out there who will do it all the time (and I include my step brother, for all the excuses he might have had) mean that we should all consider them like Pandora's box and lock it away.

I don't disagree with your overall point but I have erm heard from a friend
that weed gives a tremendous boost to the appetite and food tastes even more delicious, he says.
 

Command_doh

LE
Book Reviewer
#13
Mr_Deputy said:
i know about drugs and i'm just not in favour of them. finito.
i have an adopted brother who was hooked on heroin, i've known people enjoy them responsibly and happily but many done same and let their lives slip so slowly into unhappiness they cant see it nore the effect on health. i know far less affected severely by booze. people might have a drink prob for a bit and get so fed up with it they get fit again. be honest you can't enjoy a healthy meal with an E or a spliff can you? Spilff ruins your appetite and the last thing you want to do on most drugs is eat.
A glass of wine or a couple of beers doesnt change your whole charcter and the way you come across to others while ONE spliff or ONE line of coke/ONE half an E can.


fags
drugs of all types

are bad news in my mind. mainly because of the amount of idiots who abuse them. like anything ...guns etc it would be great if those of us who wanted to partake in something like that could do so legally (I wouldn't mind once every fifth birthday having a legal E and having a great night it would prob be excellent) ...but the thing is the massive amount of idiots out there who will do it all the time (and I include my step brother, for all the excuses he might have had) mean that we should all consider them like Pandora's box and lock it away.
Good points. I think I, like so many others, drinks far too much. But I enjoy it, and don't want to give it up. In my youth I tried a few thing over a short time and saw a lot more, gave me a good bit of experience on the subject. But I have gone full circle and become a bit of an anti - drug nazi for the reason you indicate above - people (generally speaking) are far to irresponsible when it comes to the safe and controlled use of controlled substances. They become criminals, attack/kill people (due to psychological issues, dependency crime, drug - raging) and in some cases become a sub species of humanity. Not enough is done to combat the problem - public acceptance due to the proliferation of 'social drug taking' (coke/speed/weed) makes any (very expensive) campaign or law change a serious political issue for any Government.
 

Command_doh

LE
Book Reviewer
#14
WalterWarry said:
Mr_Deputy said:
i know about drugs and i'm just not in favour of them. finito.
i have an adopted brother who was hooked on heroin, i've known people enjoy them responsibly and happily but many done same and let their lives slip so slowly into unhappiness they cant see it nore the effect on health. i know far less affected severely by booze. people might have a drink prob for a bit and get so fed up with it they get fit again. be honest you can't enjoy a healthy meal with an E or a spliff can you? Spilff ruins your appetite and the last thing you want to do on most drugs is eat. A glass of wine or a couple of beers doesnt change your whole charcter and the way you come across to others while ONE spliff or ONE line of coke/ONE half an E can.


fags
drugs of all types

are bad news in my mind. mainly because of the amount of idiots who abuse them. like anything ...guns etc it would be great if those of us who wanted to partake in something like that could do so legally (I wouldn't mind once every fifth birthday having a legal E and having a great night it would prob be excellent) ...but the thing is the massive amount of idiots out there who will do it all the time (and I include my step brother, for all the excuses he might have had) mean that we should all consider them like Pandora's box and lock it away.

I don't disagree with your overall point but I have erm heard from a friend
that weed gives a tremendous boost to the appetite and food tastes even more delicious, he says.
Gives you the munchies, but also makes you a raging depressive. And ruins your dress sense/ability to style your hair/listen to good music.
 
#15
walt_of_the_walts said:
Cannabis with a tetra-hydrol-canibilol(?) or THC content above 10% should be class 'A'

Thats Skunk Weed. Nasty stuff.

All this Class A,B,C* balls gets way from the essential fact. People who take drugs are criminals, and often drug taking is just another aspect of their criminality. None of them should be viewed as addicts or some kind of socio-medical victims.

People who take drugs are in the main, dull, unreliable and un-trustworthy people. The Courts should stop pandering to them and start punishing them.

*C can cover prescribed drugs and is a bit of a grey area. Personal use: Possibly unwise but probably not criminal. Intent to supply others, even for free: Criminal
Really Mr Chairborne - and why is that? Care to explain in detail from your little bubble that you appear live in. Hmmm - lets test every bit of weed that the police confiscate to measure the THC content.
 
#16
Command_doh said:
speedybham said:
Markintime said:
Command_doh said:
Weed, regardless of what the liberal masses would have you believe, leads to much harder and more unsavoury drug abuse, associated crime and the fallout that brings. In a lot of cases. Seen it first hand.
You're right, in many cases it does lead to 'harder' drug use. However, even if it doesn't, weed itself can lead to paranoia and obsessive compulsive dissorder. A major proportion of crime is carried out to fund a drug habit. Some hard drug users are funding a £200 a day habit, that is an awful lot of petty crime on a day in day out basis.
The trouble is when kids start smokin cannabis in their early teens! they would never believe what it leads to. As adults we all know it leads to 'harder' drug use. The chemicals used to grow cannabis make make it even worst, but the classification doesn't help and sends the wrong message.

But are the goverment right to be looking at the 'harder' drugs out there, look at other 'harder' drugs, dealers are puttin anything in, literally anything out the kitchen cuboard!
Never mind the chemicals at source, what about the sh it some of this stuff is cut with? Rat poison, bleach, brick dust, to name but a few. Icing Sugar is used to 'thin out' coke and crack - which is just a money making thing, but Cannabis Resin often contains vinyl and other chemical additives to 'bulk it out'. People really have no idea what they are sticking up their noses, in their gobs or into their veins.
Teething powder, proplus, glass for a sparkle!! anything white

If you ever have a problem with anyone snortin coke just show them the linky to the video below and it will make them heave....

fast forward to about 20 min through to see the conditions in which the 'farmers' havest the coca plants....

it's not nice or pleasent viewing and it will probably all start with a spliff, not rocket science is it? When youve been smokin cannabis for years your body gets use to it and the 'buzz' gets to be normal thats when poeple look for somethin with an bit more of a kick... and unlike cannabis it's highly highly addictive and just as cheap, noone is gona miss £20 or £40 on friday night, but then what was friday nights becomes all weekend, before you know it it's tuesday and your still going at it.

There is no such word as 'one line', having lost some of my best mates through their habbits i know the effects too well, it ain't cool and it ain't clever. The classification doesn't help anyone, but i'm not sure scrapping it would do anygood either.

linky
 
#17
Command_doh said:
Weed, regardless of what the liberal masses would have you believe, leads to much harder and more unsavoury drug abuse, associated crime and the fallout that brings. In a lot of cases. Seen it first hand.
Oh my - we have heard this argument before and you sir are another bubble living moron who needs to take a look outside of your own little world.

Hello - earth calling Command_doh_nut. Yes, it is now 2009, time to wake up and smell the coffee.
 
#18
Markintime said:
Command_doh said:
Weed, regardless of what the liberal masses would have you believe, leads to much harder and more unsavoury drug abuse, associated crime and the fallout that brings. In a lot of cases. Seen it first hand.
You're right, in many cases it does lead to 'harder' drug use. However, even if it doesn't, weed itself can lead to paranoia and obsessive compulsive dissorder. A major proportion of crime is carried out to fund a drug habit. Some hard drug users are funding a £200 a day habit, that is an awful lot of petty crime on a day in day out basis.
Yes - but the thread is about Cannabis - not the fun class A drugs.

Its like opening a thread on motor bikes and suddenly we have progressed onto HGVs, Ships and Space Shuttles. - Keep it on thread.
 
#19
speedybham said:
Markintime said:
Command_doh said:
Weed, regardless of what the liberal masses would have you believe, leads to much harder and more unsavoury drug abuse, associated crime and the fallout that brings. In a lot of cases. Seen it first hand.
You're right, in many cases it does lead to 'harder' drug use. However, even if it doesn't, weed itself can lead to paranoia and obsessive compulsive dissorder. A major proportion of crime is carried out to fund a drug habit. Some hard drug users are funding a £200 a day habit, that is an awful lot of petty crime on a day in day out basis.
The trouble is when kids start smokin cannabis in their early teens! they would never believe what it leads to. As adults we all know it leads to 'harder' drug use. The chemicals used to grow cannabis make make it even worst, but the classification doesn't help and sends the wrong message.

But are the goverment right to be looking at the 'harder' drugs out there, look at other 'harder' drugs, dealers are puttin anything in, literally anything out the kitchen cuboard!
Oh yes - another armchair expert. Care to explian what these chemicals are? From what my mates tell me most home growers will use organic foods due to the nicer taste they produce and higher yeilds - such as BioBizz. I am sure growers will not use harmful checmicals as it will either kill the crop of kill the lungs.
 

Command_doh

LE
Book Reviewer
#20
CDT_Dodger said:
Command_doh said:
Weed, regardless of what the liberal masses would have you believe, leads to much harder and more unsavoury drug abuse, associated crime and the fallout that brings. In a lot of cases. Seen it first hand.
Oh my - we have heard this argument before and you sir are another bubble living moron who needs to take a look outside of your own little world.

Hello - earth calling Command_doh_nut. Yes, it is now 2009, time to wake up and smell the coffee.

Why, on God's green Earth, would I give a flying fcuk what you think?

Speaking from experience, seeing 3 - no make that 4, I have remembered another one (that I know of) deaths atrributable to heroin abuse, I think its possible to say I do have some slight idea of what I am talking about here.
 

Similar threads


New Posts

Latest Threads

Top