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Can’t speak for the other services, but the RAF has it as a SIGINT speciality in the aircrew world.
Realigning the British Army after Ukraine
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gaijin
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You are one of the surviving Russian generals and I claim my 5 pounds
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I actually don't think the country is willing, apart from a group of old & grizzly veterans who remember just how good it was in our day.
instinct
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Yes because the army can be so trusted with anything that isn't a bloke on foot or maybe a horse......
Alamo
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Assuming this isn’t a wind-up, it’s one of the most ridiculous posts I’ve read on here.
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That's just as barking and out of date some posters are unfortunately (not you btw), there was good reasons to introduce WFM, one of which was we didn't have the manpower to provide one crew per veh nor the money to train that level of troops if we did. I can remember track mileage being a factor from the 1970s let alone now!
Unless or until a UK government comes up with a universally agreed funding model for the AF and other government depts the MoD will be forced to decide which eqpt it can afford to maintain (and how) and sacrifice other stuff to meet those needs, and that includes replacements and upgrades.
It would help a bit if we had VSOs in place that considered the entirity of the AF and what it is employed by the government to do instead of concentrating their minds on their own pet projects which are designed to protect their Regiments.
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There's probably more than enough cunning ones serving already.
Oh I know I'm out of date. My knowledge of AFV design all starts to go a bit wonky about 75-80. It wouldn't, I suspect, take long for a modern AFV engineer reading my opening post to wet himself laughing, I suspect.
Light troops with ATGM seem to have done well, but it’s only one club in the bag. Key thing is not to organise, train and equip to fight the last war. So first we need to see what the Russians, Chinese etc learn from Putin’s arrse kicking.
They’ll be back and even they might not be so shit next time.
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I particularly like that expression.
Despite them doing well the Russians were still able to advance for several weeks, until Ukraine dusted off it's heavy armour and started whacking the Russians upside the head.
The UKR armour was conspicuous by its absence at the start of the war, presumably saving its strength.
So I think we can safely say that light infantry can slow, delay and maybe even attrit the enemy armour, but they can't stop it.
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You're not alone, I consider myself well out of date leaving in 2012, but despite working on virtually every type of eqpt from QMs push bike to tank transorters to the tanks they carried, my level of knowledge is not at your level and never will be.
The US have a policy of being able to fight two wars simultaneously and win both.
We have downsized so much that we can't fight one war on our own let alone win it.
I think we need to start with a reasonable and honest review of what we need rather than what is the minimum that we can get away with. I have serious doubt's that we can rely on our NATO partners for our own survival, I suspect that Germany and France would drag their feet just long enough, hoping that we had been beaten before they had to act.
I don't trust the Biden administration either, see threats to ruin our trade deal with the US if we change our own domestic policy on Northern Ireland
If the current state of the world has taught us anything it is that a degree of self sufficiency is a good thing and i'd suggest that being able to fight a conventional war, alone if needs be and to conduct limited counter terrorism / counter insurgency at the same time would be a good place to start.
We wont always have Ukrainians on hand to provide the manpower.
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I doubt, for many reasons, they'll be any better but you're absolutely spot on about fighting the last war. The best prepared armies observe, adapt, train and practise the future war not those past and to do that means adaptive tactics, intelligence, and the officers in place* that are so well trained they are capable of making battlefield decisions for themselves without waiting for direction from above or reading them out of a manual.
* I know I often criticise officers but good ones are worth their weight in gold, and that's one place we need to improve on.
They’ve learnt one thing.. Don’t listen to Putin!
As I said AT Regt, if not a Regt all have a AT Company.
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There will be plenty of millionaire socialists using Wayne and Waynetta, Frogmella and Spudulika as a stick with which to beat any Government daring to suggest such a thing.
I’m a relic of the Cold War so in my day, there was an anti tank platoon in support company in every infantry battalion using wombats and each platoon carried an anti tank weapon in the form of the Carl Gustav 84mm. And then of course 66mm came along although I did wonder how good they would actually be against armour.
Anti tank weapons since then have evolved enormously over the years and the destruction of so much Russian armour in the Ukraine is probably a testament to that but my question is do infantry battalions these days not have an anti tank capability similarly sized to the capability it had back in my day albeit with modern anti tank weaponry?
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It does. But it depends where you think you will be deployed to. For example, when Bosnia started the Army had just two Serbo-Croat speakers. The idea of the SPIBs is for a heavy Offr/WO/SNCO mix to specialise in a particular region of the world. Language skills will be a part of that.
STANAG 6001 if you’re interested.
Yokel
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Fleets? It is funny that you mention fleets...
Am I alone in thinking that it is time to see what lessons we can learn from the 1980s NATO Marutime Strategy. Use NATO's superior access to the sea and superior naval and amphibious forces as a counter weight to Russian land power?
If only Dr Lehman had become President.
