There is a saying, perhaps you've heard it, that is applied to Civil Servants. It is:- "You pay peanuts, you get monkeys!" In my experience, the Civil Servants attached to MOD are generally not the best motivated or capable people (with some notable exceptions, it has to be said). Exacerbate this grounding with some of the heavy workloads that they can get put under at places like MCM Divs and F**k-Ups are very likely to happen. However, another trait of Civil Servants is to run every couple of years to new posts thus allowing them to escape the fallout from their indecisiveness, ineptitude, inability to get the job done etc. Generally, accountability for their actions does not follow them! (I have experienced most of the above at first hand) This is tarnishing most Civil Servants with the same brush and is probably unfair, however I'm sure most of you will spot these things in a lot of those Civil Servants who may work with you. The whole point is (at last you may say) is that there is no way a Civil Servant will ever own up to any sort of major C**k up and generally are not held to account for there actions. This does not help those of you who are awaiting postings but will put into perspective what you are up against when dealing with MCM Divs.