RBL accepts BNP donation

#3
This is a bit like if the unit kn0bhead offers to buy you a pint would you turn him down, personally me I would not but that is because beer is beer. You don't have to agree with the politics they have they have the right to say it, and to give charitable donations to whom so ever they choose.
 
#4
Personally I think the RBL should take the donation and shut up.
It is not the place or function of the RBL to play politics. If they simply refused to become embroiled in politics this would be a non story. As it is they are seting themselves up to become a political tool, either for the BNP or the anti-BNP types depending on which way the wind is blowing.
 
#5
Accept the money, on the understanding that it comes with no special riders or strings attached. Ask the BNP not to advertise or make political capital out of the donation.

If they do, then make sure that someone in the local press shows you then handing that money over to / spending it on non-white / non christian / gay charity service users and make the point it is the BNPs money you are using for that purpose.

They will either stop making donations (making themselves look like twats) or make them quietly. Either way, they are forced to be honest about their intentions.
 
#6
The money was raised by a person called Rachel Firth, who spent 24 hours on the street in a cardboard box to raise it. The problem was that she donated half of her funds to a political party which it is still legal to support, and half to the Legion.

I don't support the BNP in any way however until the government outlaws them I can't see how the nations press and politicians can get such a c0ckstand about these issues.

Besides, aren't RBL a charity. Whatever happened to that saying 'beggars can't be choosers.'
 
#7
Bazzinho1977 said:
If they do, then make sure that someone in the local press shows you then handing that money over to / spending it on non-white / non christian / gay charity service users and make the point it is the BNPs money you are using for that purpose.
So the RBL should accept money given to aid soldiers only to hand it over to a charity for non whites, non christians or gays?
 
#8
If it wasn't for the chronic underfunding of PTSD care and shameful neglect of all veterans over many decades by Labour and Tory Governments, then there wouldn't be a NEED for soldiers to rely on charity.
 
#9
to be fair he did say 'service users', which i took to mean gay/ non white/ non christian soldiers!



Ducks behind table cos she's been lippy and answered back to Falls!!
 
#12
Fallschirmjager said:
Bazzinho1977 said:
If they do, then make sure that someone in the local press shows you then handing that money over to / spending it on non-white / non christian / gay charity service users and make the point it is the BNPs money you are using for that purpose.
So the RBL should accept money given to aid soldiers only to hand it over to a charity for non whites, non christians or gays?
Errm, no, that would be stupid and ILLEGAL. They should use the money to help soldiers in line with their rules. However, if the BNP attempt to use the RBL donation for political capital, then the charity should make a big play of supporting non white soldiers, or non christian soldiers or gay soldiers.

See, it is much easier if you read what I write the first time. It saves me having to spell it out again L E T T E R by L E T T E R.
 
#13
InVinoVeritas said:
If it wasn't for the chronic underfunding of PTSD care and shameful neglect of all veterans over many decades by Labour and Tory Governments, then there wouldn't be a NEED for soldiers to rely on charity.
I think this is very true. However, even if there wasn't a need for this cahirty, I think these charities would still exist, by giving additional support to families.

I can't help but think that lately the government works out what support to give to ex-servicemen based upon how much they expect them to get from charities.
 
#14
jagman said:
Personally I think the RBL should take the donation and shut up.
It is not the place or function of the RBL to play politics. If they simply refused to become embroiled in politics this would be a non story. As it is they are seting themselves up to become a political tool, either for the BNP or the anti-BNP types depending on which way the wind is blowing.
The problem is that they advertised their opposition to the use of the poppy by the BNP and have now taken the money.
 
#15
In playing politics the RBL are moving away from the armed forces mentality and closer to just another association.

Soldiers sailors and airmen don't get to play politics in their daily business. Whoever is in charge on the day is who they answer to. In "theory" the BNP could get voted into power and the PM could be a BNP member. On that day the armed forces would have to play the game led by a BNP PM but what would RBL do?

Personally I think the BNP have become like the bat sign in the sky to (Insert word)ist mongs who just want an excuse to rant. Alot of its verbal support comes from the mouths of chav mongs who harp on about immigration as if its the only issue. Probably less than half of them actually vote and I dare say of the BNP's total support half of the votes are the so called "Protest Votes."
 
#16
What's the problem? If the Muslim Mens' Superiority Forum (I doubt that it exists) were to make a donation I bet lots of the champagne swilling lefties would applaud as it shows how multi-cultural our once great country has become.
Lets face facts, there are relatively few members or our society that fully support the BNP and all of its policies. There are a lot who support some or most of its policies, it is legal and has members in the European Parliament (spit) and if our national elections were conducted using PR, there would be BNP MPs in Westminster.
 
#17
Bazzinho1977 said:
They should use the money to help soldiers in line with their rules. However, if the BNP attempt to use the RBL donation for political capital, then the charity should make a big play of supporting non white soldiers, or non christian soldiers or gay soldiers.
But why use donations to help/support a specific type of soldier just to have a go at the BNP?
 
#19
The older members of any RBL club tend to hold political views which equate to the mainstream Labour/Conservative agendas of forty or so years ago, which - surprise, surprise - are broadly those of the BNP today. In the 50s and 60s homosexuals, blacks and Muslims (whatever the hell they were; I doubt if too many people had ever come into contact with a real one) weren't particularly welcome in the UK.

In many ways, I agree with them. In others I've tried to 'move on' in the Correct way, but find it extremely difficult, probably like many of the RBL's members.
 
#20
Fallschirmjager said:
Bazzinho1977 said:
They should use the money to help soldiers in line with their rules. However, if the BNP attempt to use the RBL donation for political capital, then the charity should make a big play of supporting non white soldiers, or non christian soldiers or gay soldiers.
But why use donations to help/support a specific type of soldier just to have a go at the BNP?
Mate - that is asked and answered above - if the BNP (or in fact any political party) tries to make political capital out of links with the RBL - then the RBL should make it clear that they are not a political tool (and this seems an apt way to do it). It might also stop other people refusing to give money to the RBL if they get the impression that their services are provided according to a rigth wing agenda.

Now, as some have mentioned, part of the problem here is that the RBL have become a political body. I wouldn't know about that, but if that is the case they need to be careful about that as that could alienate people and / or the charity commission.

Edited for fat fingers and little keyboard
 

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