Raynauds

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by jd21, Mar 30, 2008.

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  1. Hello everyone.

    I am considering a career in the army as an engineer (REME). I have a pretty rich medical history I will admit haha however it was all teenage stuff and nothing serious etc but recently I have noticed something im a little concerned about.

    I noticed raynaud's is a condition that may make someone unsuitable for service and although I have not actually been diagnosed with it im suspicious.

    My hands are usually pretty cold apart from during warm weather obviously and they can turn some pretty funny colours sometimes haha. Bare in mind im fair skinned but my hands are normally a red sort of colour or bright pink and when it's cold they sometimes go a shade of blue or darker red. I have no pain or problems with movement even when it's snowing my hands just go funny colours.

    If it does turn out I have raynaud's would that be a 100% no from the Army or would they take into account it doesn't restrict me in any way at all. Some people who have it suffer from movement issues or pain but I have never had that just a feeling of coldness especially in cold weather.

    Maybe im just paranoid but it would be extremely disapointing to be rejected for my hands turning funny colours haha thats the only symptom I have!

    I may not even have raynaud's but I have a funny feeling thats what it is!
     
  2. They say that any man who represents himself in court has a fool for a lawyer, and perhaps the same could be said for medicine. If you have (or suspect you have) a medical condition, see a doctor, get treatment, just do it.

    There are better qualified people than I to give you a response to your question. A look at this MOD website (CLICK LINK) reveals the answer I think you don't want to hear:

    and goes on to list a number of conditions that preclude applicants, including

    But for heaven's sake, don't try to diagnose youtrself, see someone who can do it properly. Then, instead of asking bone questions, you will know.

    Good luck with things
     
  3. The main reason I didn't rush to the doc is if it does turn out to be raynaud's then im screwed haha.

    However it doesn't affect me in any way it may as well not even exist so I am hoping I can just get through the medical and ignore it. If I do have it then it hasn't been diagnosed and im not lying about my medical history. No point in putting my career at risk over something I wouldn't normally even give a second thought about.

    Also a friend of mine has raynaud's and his is quite bad but he said if I do have it then it is very very mild and I probably wouldn't even be treated for it. Don't want anything else shoving on my medical records unless of course I developed a condition that urgently required medical attention.
     
  4. I hear what you're saying, but surely it would be more sensible to look after your life first and deal with your career second? Untreated and ignored, it can be a symptom of something very serious.

    There are good reasons why the army have decided, in their infinite widom, to rule out people with Raynaulds. These will include the risk of serious injury to the individual and the risk that it could cause to others.

    I'm sure someone at this site (CLICK HERE) could advise you how to get a private test. Make decisions based on factual information, not on supposition.
     
  5. Done quite abit of research about it all today and im starting to think it's not actually raynaud's haha.

    Also im 100% sure I don't have any other conditions as I had a full medical fairly recently and all was perfectly fine.

    I think im just being abit paranoid
     
  6. Listen to pyrogenica s/he speaks with wisdom!

    If you have any concerns you should get it checked out by an expert. If you don't have Reynauds you can go to the medical with a clear conscience, not holding anything back. If you find you do have it, then the Army is NOT the career for you.

    On one tour I was on the temperature dropped to -27C, which would cause severe problems if you did have a circulatory problem. Aside from putting yourself at risk you may compromise your colleagues. The medicals are there to protect the soldiers applying and the soldiers they work with.

    Peebs
     
  7. Ah don't worry it doesn't matter haha im now 100% sure I don't have raynaud's after all. Cold weather doesn't cause pain etc anyway which it almost certainly would with it. Managed to seek some sound advice from a family friend (who is a doc) and he just told me it's one of those things really since im very fair skinned. False alarm :)
     
  8. Hope so, mate, I really do. Certainly if any dr told me that something was "one of those things" without proper tests or examination then I would start being rather curious about what particular "thing" he was actually referring to and questioning his judgement.

    I am not a dr (I'm an engineer), but my wife is a commissioned nursing officer. She tells me that the symptoms you describe are entirely consistent with raynaud's disease and was rather incredulous that any GP (the "G" standing for "general" and not "consultant") could be as dismissive without full clinical evaluation (hospital tests for circulation problems). Her precise words were "he's not a doctor, he's a complete f*uckwit". Coming from someone who swears about once a year, that's pretty strong for her.

    Put it this way, I'm fair skinned, and my wife is nordic, so you won't get much paler than her. Neither of us suffer from our extremeties turning different colours when we get cold, so perhaps that "thing" the dr referred to well may be worth investigating. And none better than your own dr, who has your full medical history and also has a legal duty of care for your health.

    If he thinks there's nothing to worry about, then take his word for it. If he thinks it needs to be checked out by a specialist, and something turns out to be wrong, then at least you will be treated appropriately. But having the courage to ask questions and have tests done will not damage your prospects of joining the army, it shows common sense and maturity, whereas failing to disclose a potentially life threatening condition that has not been formally diagnosed on your medical questionairre will destroy your prospects.

    If you lack the maturity and courage to find out the facts from someone qualified to diagnose your problems, could it be that you also lack the maturity and judgement to make such an important career choice in joining the army?

    With respect, your life is far more important than attempting to pursue your career at the risk of jeopardising the safety of yourself and others.

    But if you're looking for reassurance, we both know that you're not going to find it on a forum any more than you'll get it without a proper clinical evaluation of whatever may be wrong.