RARO List - How does it work

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  1. I have to take a years leave (possibly more, depending on outcome) from TA duties for personal reasons and heard about this RARO thing that I can go on? which means i dont have to resign my commission,

    can any one shed any light on the process? :?

    cheers

    CFC
     
  2. msr

    msr LE

    PART 15 - THE UNPOSTED LIST

    General Outline 3.551.

    The restructured Unposted List was implemented with effect from 1 Jan 02. It consists of 2 sections - List A and List B. It is open to all ranks and is managed by the TA & Res MCM Div.

    3.552. The Unposted List permits eligible personnel to remain in the TA and for those in List A to undertake obligatory training for bounty earning purposes, where previously they would have been required to transfer to RARO or Section D of the Regular Reserve, or leave the TA.

    3.553. The Unposted List provides cover for TA officers and soldiers who are between postings, for example on completing an FTRS Commitment, or who temporarily, for business or other reasons are unable to give full commitment to the TA. It also provides an alternative to overbearing as a means of retaining personnel who have completed their current tenure of appointment and are awaiting selection for a new appointment. (See also para 3.506.).

    3.554. At the completion of any period of mobilized service or FTRS, individuals are to be posted back to their parent TA unit.If necessary, such individuals are to be overborne, subject to the provisions of Annex D/1. If the period of overbearing is likely to exceed six months, or is inappropriate, the commanding officer may apply to TA & Res MCM Div for the individual to be posted to the Unposted List.

    3.555. Transfers to the Unposted List for officers and soldiers are to comply with the provisions of paras 4.101a or 4.101d and 5.155-5.158, as appropriate, except for the requirement that an established vacancy must exist. The commanding officer of the receiving unit is the Col TA & Res MCM Div.
     
  3. thanks for that,

    But how long can i be on the unposted list for?
     
  4. msr

    msr LE

    Go and read TA Regs:

    3.561. Duration. Personnel are not normally to be permitted to remain on List A for more than one year or beyond the normal retirement/discharge age for their rank, employment and Arm/Corps, whichever is the earlier. However, Col TA & Res MCM Div may authorize extensions of service/re-engagement of not more than a year at a time, up to a total of 2 years aggregated service on List A. Personnel who have not found a suitable posting or entered permanent service, FTRS or ADC by the end of the maximum authorized period on List A are to:
    a. be posted to List B, or
    b. resign or retire or
    c. be discharged under the provisions of paras 5.186 or 5.187, as appropriate or
    d. transfer to RARO Class 2, or e. be discharged under the provisions of para 5.196 and transfer to Section D of the Regular Reserve.
     
  5. MSR,

    You truly would be a valuable asset to any pub quiz team! :D
     
  6. For the life of me i can not find a list of jobs!!!!!
     
  7. Thats because its a list of people (or 3 lists to be exact Unposted A, Unposted B and RARO)!
     
  8. RARO List, can anyone advise me if you are on the B List would you be eligible for the VRSM. I have enquiry from a Reserve Officer who has been on the list since 1991.
     
  9. mso

    mso LE

    List B
    01.03.568. List B is for officers and soldiers who are temporarily unable to fulfil their training obligations but who wish to remain in the Army Reserve and intend to resume their commitment at a later date. Individuals on List B are not included in the overall strength of the Army Reserve and do not count against the Army Reserve liability.
    01.03.569. Eligibility. List B is open to all ranks of the Army Reserve.
    01.03.570. Assignment. Personnel are to be assigned to the Army Reserve Unposted List (List B) by APC CM Ops, which becomes their new parent unit.
    01.03.571. Training. Individuals on List B have no training liability and therefore are ineligible to earn annual bounty.
    01.03.572. Documents. All unit personal documents are to be forwarded to APC CM Ops as the new receiving unit.
    01.03.573. Duration. Personnel are not to be permitted to remain on List B for more than two years

    Reference: Defence Gateway - Login

    My bold.
     
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  10. Does he qualify? Does he have 10 Certificates of Efficiency or Regular service in lieu?

    Medals: campaigns, descriptions and eligibility - Detailed guidance - GOV.UK


    Criteria

    Reserve personnel shall be eligible for award of the VRSM after 10 years reckonable service in the Reserve Forces, provided that they have earned training bounty as required by their obligatory training commitment as defined in individual service regulations in 9 out of the 10 qualifying years.

    Up to 5 years former regular service may count as half qualifying time, giving a maximum of 2 and a half years eligible service. Complex regulations apply to the use of former service and periods of Full Time Regular Service (FTRS) and Non Permanent Regular Service (NPRS) as qualifying time towards the VRSM and the regulations should therefore be studied in detail. Complex regulations also apply to the transition between the former separate service reserve medals and the VRSM.
     
  11. mso

    mso LE

    Can't have:
    01.03.571. Training. Individuals on List B have no training liability and therefore are ineligible to earn annual bounty.

    The real mystery is how they managed to stay on the list for 25 years...

    01.03.573. Duration. Personnel are not to be permitted to remain on List B for more than two years

    I wonder if someone is trying to pull a fast one.
     
  12. Doubt it very much as no bounty would have been earned.

    ANNEX C TO CHAPTER 3 REGULATIONS AND ADMINISTRATIVE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE VOLUNTEER RESERVES SERVICE MEDAL (VRSM) (PARA 3.242 REFERS)

    Part 1 - VRSM Regulations Introduction

    1. The Volunteer Reserves Service Medal (VRSM) and Clasps are awarded to personnel of all ranks in recognition of long and efficient service of proved capacity in the Volunteer Reserve Forces. The award of the VRSM and its Clasps is governed generally by the Royal Warrant dated 29 March 1999. It carries no rights to the use of post-nominal letters.
    2. The medal is oval in form, in silver, and bears on the obverse the Crowned Effigy of the Sovereign and on the reverse the words “For service in the Volunteer Reserves” above a bunch of oak leaves. The name of the recipient is inscribed on the rim of the Medal. The Medal is to be worn on the left breast suspended on a ribbon 1¼ inches in width of dark green with narrow central stripes of dark blue, scarlet and light blue, the central stripes being separated from the green by narrow gold stripes. In the order in which Orders, Decorations and Medals should be worn, it is worn immediately after the Air Efficiency Award.
    3. Clasps may be awarded and are in silver and engraved on the reverse with the date of the award of the Clasp and attached to the ribbon by which the Medal is suspended. Rose emblems denoting the award of each Clasp are attached to the ribbon when the ribbon only is worn. A maximum of three roses may be worn. To denote service beyond the award of three Clasps (three silver roses), the following shall be worn:
    a. Four Clasps One gold rose
    b. Five Clasps One gold rose and one silver rose
    c. Six Clasps One gold rose and two silver roses
    d. Seven Clasps Two gold roses
    4. The award of the Volunteer Reserves Service Medal and its Clasps is announced in the London Gazette. Eligibility
    5. To be eligible for the award of the VRSM an individual must fulfil the following conditions:
    a. On or after 1 Apr 99 he must be serving as a volunteer in one of the following Reserve Forces:
    (1) Royal Naval Reserve (RNR);
    (2) Royal Marines Reserve (RMR);
    (3) Territorial Army (TA).
    (4) Royal Air Force Reserve (RAFR);
    (5) Royal Auxiliary Air Force (RAuxAF); and he must still be serving at the time that the qualifying service is completed.
    b. He must have completed ten years continuous qualifying service reckoned in accordance with paras 7, 8 and 9, but subject to the provisions of para 10, and of which part but not all may have been served before 1 Apr 99.
    c. He must have earned training bounty as required by his obligatory training commitment as defined in individual service regulations in nine out of the 10 qualifying years and his service is thus deemed efficient.
    d. Alternatively, when serving as a Reservist as defined at paras 7d, 7e and 8a, an individual will be deemed to be efficient unless his annual report, or a special report, shows otherwise.
    6. To be eligible for the award of a Clasp to the Medal, in addition to meeting the criteria detailed in paras 5a and 5d, an individual must fulfil the following conditions:
    a. He must have completed a further five years continuous qualifying service (as reckoned in paras 7-10) since the award of the VRSM or previous Clasp to that Medal.
    b. He must have earned training bounty as required by his obligatory training commitment as defined in individual service regulations for a further five years and his service is thus deemed efficient.

    Qualifying Service
    7. The following will reckon as single qualifying service:
    a. Service after the age of 18 in the Reserve Forces listed at para 5a, subject to the provisions of paras 8 and 9, and except where such service is solely for duty with the Cadet Forces, in which case such service will reckon towards the Cadet Forces Medal.
    b. Service in any of the authorized auxiliary forces of the Commonwealth that has not been counted towards the award of any other long service award.
    c. Service in the Ulster Defence Regiment (Part Time) (UDR (PT)) which was reckonable towards but was insufficient for the award of the UDR Medal or Clasps, or service in the Royal Irish (Home Service) (Part Time) (R IRISH (HS) (PT)) but was insufficient for the award of the Northern Ireland Home Service Medal or Clasps.
    d. Service on permanent service following Call-Out, a Short Service Volunteer Commission (SSVC), Short Term Regular Commission (STRC), Short Service Engagement (SSE), Short Term Regular Engagement (STRE), Full Time Reserve Service (FTRS) or any combination of these forms of service up to a maximum of five years aggregated service.
    e. Service as a Reservist under the provisions of Sections 25 or 27 of the Reserve Forces Act 1996 (RFA 96) covering additional duties, commitments and additional voluntary training and duties.
    8. The following will count as two-thirds qualifying service: Service in the Non-Regular Permanent Staff (NRPS) of the Reserve Forces listed at para 5a.
    9. The following will count as half qualifying service:
    a. Service below the age of 18 years in the Reserve Forces listed at para 5a, or authorized auxiliary forces of the Commonwealth that has not been counted towards the award of any other long service award.
    b. Service after the age of 17 years on RNR List 7 at a University Royal Naval Unit (URNU), or as a cadet or commissioned officer serving solely in Group B of the Officers’ Training Corps (OTC), or the Subalterns’ Special Pool or the University Air Squadron (UAS).
    c. Service in an SSVC, STRC, SSE, STRE, FTRS or any combination of these forms of service for any period in excess of five years aggregated service.
    d. Up to five years full-time service in the Regular Forces, other than that covered by para 9c, which has not been counted towards the award of any other long service award. Full-time service to a maximum of five years subsequent to the award of another long service award may be counted. Continuity of Service
    10. The following, though not counted as qualifying service for the VRSM or Clasps, will not be considered a break in the continuity of service required by paras 5b and 6a:
    a. Periods not exceeding three years between service in one of the forces listed at para 5a and another such Service.
    b. Periods not exceeding three years between service in authorized auxiliary forces of the Commonwealth and the forces listed in para 5a. The period may be extended when the initial non-existence of an auxiliary force prevents the individual joining such a force. However, an extension shall in no cases be for more than six months after facilities for joining such a force become available.
    c. Service in the regular reserves of the Royal Navy, Royal Marines, Army or Royal Air Force immediately following discharge or transfer from one of the forces listed at para 5a if such service is by virtue of a previous liability for reserve service.
    d. Service in the regular reserves of an Armed Service of the Commonwealth if it immediately follows discharge or transfer from one of the forces listed at para 5a or an authorized auxiliary force of the Commonwealth, and is by virtue of a previous liability for reserve service.
    e. Any year to a maximum of three consecutive years in which an individual fails to complete his full obligatory training commitment as laid down in paras 5c and 6b.
    f. A period not exceeding three years between leaving the Regular Forces and formally applying to join the Reserve Forces listed at para 5a.
    g. Any service which has been counted towards another award for long service in either the Regular Forces, the Reserve Forces or the Cadet Forces.
    h. Any service which is given solely to the Cadet Forces. Such service may reckon instead towards the award of the Cadet Forces Medal.
    i. Any formally authorized break in service or leave of absence of up to three years taken for personal or business reasons.
     
  13. In theory, two years. I was on it for something like five. At one point they made noises about trying to get rid of me, but a quick query in response to their p1ss-poor letter put that on to the backburner as they never got as far as responding, let alone processing my discharge.
     
  14. I believe its now called the Army Reserve Reinforcement Group (ARRG)
     
  15. You need to check what you are asking first, B List is Unposted List B. This is not RARO list. No one has been on UPL B since 1991. That sounds more likely to be RARO.

    It will imminently change to the ARRG, but hasn't quite yet due to *reasons*.