Rapist asylum seeker gets payout

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  1. So if you want to know why we have to mothball half the navy and you've got no helicopter and ammo in Afghanistan, now you know why.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6219608.stm

    Personally, I think we should tie a car battery to this chap's legs and send him scuba diving off Beachy Head.
     
  2. FFS!!!!

    It's all wrong, I've had a full of this country. I'm looking to emmigrate to canada. It can't be as bad over there as it is here.
     
  3. I hope they can recoup some of that money on food and accommodation charges. :x
     
  4. Why should he not get compensation if he has been illegally detained? Is the rule of law not applicable to asylum seekers?

    The only objection is to the reference that the govt is 'trying' to deport him. FFS! How difficult is it to deport someone? Throw him on a plane, deduct expenses from compensation payout, then wire him the rest of the money. I could arrange it in a day.
     
  5. I don't understand.
     
  6. This is the part that I see as being ridiculous! He's a convicted rapist and therefor has forfeited any claim for asylum. On completion of his jail sentence* he should have been escorted by immigration officials to an airport and handcuffed to a seat on a flight going to Mogadishu International Airport. No leave for appeal, no ECHR, no left wing hand wringing no win no fee human rights leeches ... sorry lawyers.

    Not difficult really is it!


    * Whether he should have completed his jail sentence here or in Somalia is another argument!
     
  7. in_the_cheapseats

    in_the_cheapseats LE Moderator

    I don't even want to comment. This is just so ridiculously stupid.

    What protection or compensation to our TA brethern injured on Ops?

    This country's govn policies and legal system has no sense of priorities any more.

    Sad, really very sad.
     
  8. Yes, it's wrong - very wrong.

    Unfortunately it isn't as simple as just putting someone on a plane, booting them off the other end, attractive as that option may be! In the real world, for all sorts of reasons, that can't really happen.

    The main obstacle to deportation is getting travel documents and its that (along with a seemingly unnecessarily long appeals procedure) that delays removals of failed asylum-seekers or the deportation of foreign criminals. No country is going to accept someone unless it can be proved that they are one of theirs. Asylum seekers often lie about their nationality and usually don't have (or "lose") their passport.

    The Home Office have to first find out the nationality of the person concerned and then obtain travel documents for them. With a third-world country that's not always easy and getting the documents can take months, if not years. Some countries are obstructive or simply won't accept anyone (China is a good example).

    The immigration situation in this country is in a mess, no doubt. At present there are still more people are coming in each month than are being removed. The Govt are trying to do something about it (albeit slowly). Negotiations with police forces are in hand to get 800 police officers seconded to the Immigration Service to try and get things moving (they have about 400 already), and it's changing from a department of the Home Office to a separate border-control agency, along the lines of SOCA.
     
  9. RedRabbit I see your point but this individual was in jail for 8 years. That is plenty of time and opportunity for all departments to get any information required to deport the individual! As for appeals - that shouldn't be an issue, he is a convicted rapist and is therefor an undesirable and should not be entitled to appeal!
     
  10. Horridlittleman - you're right. 8 years seems plenty of time! This chap is another example of those cases that got Charles Clark fired as Home Secretary a while back. They're one of the reasons UKIS was declared 'not fit for purpose' and why the changes I've described are happening.

    I'm not defending the abysmal record of UKIS so far. All I'm trying to do is to make the processes clear. I'm one of the 400 police officers presently seconded and trying to sort out the mess. All I can say is that it will, unfortunately, take time and much as we'd like a 'magic bullet', there simply ain't one. (Some might say that a 5.56mm one would do the job better, but that's another story!).

    From what I've seen, its the old story of the troops on the ground (the immigration officers) trying to do their best against poor leadership and lack of resources and will from above. For what it's worth, and from my experience working in the field, I think they are getting there - slowly(!).
     
  11. I barely get that amount for 22 yrs of service!!!!
     
  12. This just makes my p1ss boil over even more!
     
  13. Drug "A" put him on a plane flying over Somalia, push him out, no documents required, when found he must have been trying to abscond or stowing away in the undercarriage, it could happen a lot. Imagine that the plane lands and the crew "Discover", that the entire compliment of passengers have absconded.
    I mean it is nothing new, they did it on the Mary Celeste, for gawds sake.
    Otherwise, very sad, mad and bad reading.
     
  14. Drug "A" put him on a plane flying over Somalia, push him out, no documents required, when found he must have been trying to abscond or stowing away in the undercarriage, it could happen a lot. Imagine that the plane lands and the crew "Discover", that the entire compliment of passengers have absconded.
    I mean it is nothing new, they did it on the Mary Celeste, for gawds sake.
    Otherwise, very sad, mad and bad reading.
     
  15. Sorry Chaps Chapes' for the double post/vision.....Mlaaaaaar