Rape Survey

#1
The news tonight had a story about attitudes towards rape.

Are women you dress provocatively asking for it?
 
#2
I am never going to flirt with you again Fishy :(
 
#4
I'll take that as a no then pops!
 
#6
The results were amazing!

If a guy gets drunk while wearing a pair of shorts, a T-shirt and a pair of open-toe shoes in July then decides to go around the back of a skip for a slash on his way home then gets jumped and gang raped I wonder if they would have decided he was asking for it, and if so how?

What did he do that was an invitation to the attackers?

His immoral dress sense? His provocative footwear? His disregard for his safety?

Just wondering.......

Beebs
 
#7
Do you go round the back of a pub for a slash on the way home then beebs?

Its not called Rape, its called either supprise sex, or pronouced say it Rap hey.

Next youll be saying me taking my claw hammer when i go dating is immoral!!
 
#8
The way the survey was badly done and some of the assumptions taken from the results really annoy me.

For a start, if the reports on the news are even a little correct, the questions asked were does flirting/dressing provocitivly/Being drunk mean that w woman was either 'slightly or completley' responsible for the rape. It should have asked seperate questions for completely responsible and slightly responsible. After all, many people would think that a woman who was flirting and wearing next to nothing would be more likely to get raped than a woman who was just being friendly and dressed more conservetivly. But in this survey, if you said they may be partly responsible it went down as a vote for completely responsible..... which it wasn't.

Also, after such a dodgy survey, there are people on the news declaring that everyone in the CPS and Police are in the 1/3 of people that say that the woman is responsible! Quoting the poor conviction figures as proof!

Now women should be allowed to go out and have a good time without haviing the risk of being attacked. So should men, even if the kind of attack is different. But to say the Police are not willing to convict on rape charges because they are on the side of the men is wrong.

Surely they can only convict if there is enough evidence to do so safely? What else are they supposed to do? Make up evidence because "she said he did it and we'll have to go with that"? Without the right evidence nobody should be convicted of anything. You should be asking victims to come forward earlier rather than blame the police and the justice system for being 'institutionally sexist'.
 
#9
Over here we have had a couple of cases of blokes being done for raping prostitutes. Shouldn't the correct charge be shoplifting?
 
#11
I'll go along with PP on this, in my opinion a very dodgy survey which produced the expected and probably hoped for result. I'd even go a bit further and say that this survey fits into the atmosphere at the moment where responsibility is taken away from the individual.

The way a person acts and behaves sends out messages to others that's part of the way we communicate and there are times and places where certain types of dress and behaviour would not be wise. There are certain areas on the west side of the Irish sea where I would very seriously consider not wearing a U.J. T-shirt for example. I am definately not defending any rapist, however a bit of common sense never hurt anyone did it?
 
#12
Fuchs66 said:
I am definately not defending any rapist, however a bit of common sense never hurt anyone did it?
You wouldn't try and advocate common sense on the subject of polotics in a west Belfast pub would you? That is a case where a bit of common sense really could hurt! 8O
 

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#13
blessed baby cakes said:
...

If a guy gets drunk while wearing a pair of shorts, a T-shirt and a pair of open-toe shoes in July then decides to go around the back of a skip for a slash on his way home then gets jumped and gang raped I wonder if they would have decided he was asking for it, and if so how?

...
I'm getting bloody fed up with this.

Something needs to be done RIGHT NOW about these gangs of predatory yummies that prowl for innocent young chaps like myself to have a beer or three, then force me to perform for hours on end. There's a finite limit to the number of dorii I want to service a night.

It's enough to drive a bloke to drink...
 
#14
Cutaway said:
blessed baby cakes said:
...

If a guy gets drunk while wearing a pair of shorts, a T-shirt and a pair of open-toe shoes in July then decides to go around the back of a skip for a slash on his way home then gets jumped and gang raped I wonder if they would have decided he was asking for it, and if so how?

...
I'm getting bloody fed up with this.

Something needs to be done RIGHT NOW about these gangs of predatory yummies that prowl for innocent young chaps like myself to have a beer or three, then force me to perform for hours on end. There's a finite limit to the number of dorii I want to service a night.

It's enough to drive a bloke to drink...
Back of The Feathers again this evening then Cuts? ;)

Beebs & Co
 

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#15
Feathers ?

No, I only go for the complete turkey.
 
#16
Poor survey design.

But worst of all...Amnesty International?? Don't they do writers & politicians banged up in foreign jails?
 
#17
OK, could be slightly contravertial and am NOT condoning rape in any way at all!

But a quick straw poll of some of my friends does indicate that women do fanstasise of being overpowered by a stranger and having sex with them! (AKA Rape). I guess these fantasies have a rose tinted element to them, but interesting none the less.

I for one didn't realise there was as many cases of rape as there is, and thats only the reported ones, what about all those that are not reported! Not good!

OS
 
#18
I heard someone compare it to not wearing expensive jewelry in certain cities if you don't want it stolen. Which is utter crap. A jewelry thief is a garden-variety opportunist, whereas a rapist is perpetrating a crime of anger, not sex.

The only requirement that a stranger rapist (as opposed to an acquaintance) looks for is that a woman is alone and unprotected. Her choice in outfit is, as far as I know, a detail. :roll:

As common as it unfortunately is, I don't think could ever be considered a regular crime of opportunity...most men I know prefer to have sex with women that aren't crying and begging to be let go.

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Edited to include response to OneShot: That may be anecdotally true. But again, it's not really about sex so much as the interchange of power. The stranger that ravishes you is usually faceless. Comparable to guys wanting to fcuk a "schoolgirl"? (In your fantasies, the schoolgirl probably looks like Charlotte Church and nothing like your neighbor's 12-year-old daughter with spots on her face.)

And if the Tankie were to put on a balaklava and "overpower" me (not, of course that we would ever do such disgusting things :twisted:) it's because I know/trust/love him that we're comfortable doing it. A stranger that tries should be prepared to lose a couple of fingers trying.
 

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#19
TankiesYank said:
...most men I know prefer to have sex with women that aren't crying and begging to be let go.
Weirdoes !






On a serious note, how do the folk that compile these figures work out how many unreported rapes there are ?
Surely if they are not reported there is no record of them ?
I'm not being obtuse, I genuinely can't see how accurate stats can be drawn on undisclosed crimes of this type.
 

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