Rape - on a par with speeding!

#1
What fvcking country is Clarke on?

Rape is as bad and as awful a crime as any imaginable.

I am a dyed in the wool Tory, but this old, and failed, man MUST go!

PS: I am a 70 year old man with all the NORMAL instincts!

PPS: Clarke won't be sacked because he is in love with the European Soviet Union; and the Clegg-Cable 'cabal', currently running this leaderless administration, will not allow it!!
 
#2
Wot.......?
 

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#3
As I read it, Ken Clarke was saying that violently forcing yourself on someone was worse than a 17 year old sleeping with his 15 year old girlfriend who'd consented. Which seems fair enough and eminently sensible to me.

But hey, top marks for shoe-horning in a reference to the EU even though it has no bearing on the story whatsoever.
 
#4
That is a very christian view.... a sin is a sin........ all will not get you through the pearly gates!
oh unless you repent of those sins!
 
#5
When did he say it was on a par with speeding?What he did say is some rapes are worse than others-seems like a fair point to me.
 
#7
But hey, top marks for shoe-horning in a reference to the EU even though it has no bearing on the story whatsoever.
In this particular instance I think you have homed in on the cause of the anathema. It's not Clarke's stance on rape per se, but an opportunity to rail against one of the more pro-EU Tories.
 
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#8
What fvcking country is Clarke on?

Rape is as bad and as awful a crime as any imaginable.

I am a dyed in the wool Tory, but this old, and failed, man MUST go!

PS: I am a 70 year old man with all the NORMAL instincts!

PPS: Clarke won't be sacked because he is in love with the European Soviet Union; and the Clegg-Cable 'cabal', currently running this leaderless administration, will not allow it!!
Is a sixteen year old lad having it of with a fifteen years eleven months old girl, with her full consent, rape?. I say no, the law says yes. What is your point Isquared?
 
#9
Sex with a girl under 16 used to be Unlawful Sexual Intercourse

This has changed and is now rape even if she was a willing partner as an under 16 cannot consent in law.

So technically you can rape someone who is busy fecking yer brains out! Funny old world
 
#14
Where does ******* rodents feature on the scale?
If the rodents fist consenting partners in private, then it's not illegal. Having any part of a rodent, including its fists, inserted into any orifice while in a public lavatory is still an offence though, despite the best efforts of Lord Mandelson and Richard Gere to have the Sexual Offences Act 2005 amended.

That'll be £856.25 for legal advice.

Mariner QC
 
#15
When did he say it was on a par with speeding?What he did say is some rapes are worse than others-seems like a fair point to me.
Come on Isq, where is the speeding reference? Did Clarke say this? Or is this your hyperbole again?

Why do you persist in trying to rabble rouse on Arrse by treating us like idiots? If you want to write in the style of a student newspaper or Socialist Worker why not try somewhere else?
 
#16
I said it was 'on a par with speeding'.

Clarke has postulated that if a RAPIST gives in and pleads guilty, then he, the RAPIST, will only be given a 'three year sentence'. 'Three years' less time on remand and the 'tariff' is: out and about, and statistically DOING IT AGAIN!

Those on this site who continue to think that RAPE is 'amusing', just carry on and try living with yourselves.

You 'half men'; you 'wanna-be hard men'; you 'wish you were good enough'; you who are not able to attract a female; you ugly, thick, illiterate nonentities; just go and rape - make yourselves feel good, make yourselves well 'ard even, (if you can get it harder enough) and then consider what utter, indescribable low-life you are.

No decent soldier should consider even a grin when contemplating this heinous crime.

Read the papers - don't rely on my report. This sad tale of stupidity, Clarke's stupidity, broke yesterday (17 May). I was astonished that it was not reported on this site. Now I know why - site infested, I mean infested, with brain-dead arse-holes!!!!
 
#17
What's being lost in the Sisters' outrage over his comments about the differing seriousness of rape is that he is proposing to introduce rules that allow a 50% discount on sentence if the rapist pleads guilty at the first opportunity. So if one of your daughters is violently raped and the attacker gets 10 years, it's automatically reduced to 5 for a guilty plea. He's then given automatic remission of 50% so he serves 2 years and 6 months. That is what is ****ing outrageous and that is why the ****ing idiot should be sacked.
 

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#19
He said it in a clumsy way, but Clarke is correct. The old fool.

Miliband and womens/rape groups jumping on it. Storm in a teacup.
'Fraid not. at least in this case.

The proposal as it stands is that an early admission will earn the accused 50% remission, as opposed to the current 30% (if he (and it normally is a "he") is found guilty (provided there's evidence of remorse and good behaviour etc).

The current norm for rape is 5 years.

So.

Go guilty early = 2.5 years
50% good behaviour = 1.25 years
Get out of jail free card = 1.25 years

So 15 months to address a "storm in a tea cup".

A 19yr old bar-maid I knew was sexually assaulted on a bus. Never saw her attacker in court, dropped out of uni, and had her life ruined.

I don't want that to happen to my daughter.

In this case, Millipede is right, the die hard right of the Tory Party, and Harareboy99 are wrong.
 
#20
I was raped by a 19 year old girl when I was 13.

All my mates were sick when I bragged about it.

There is a huge difference between some Peter Sutcliffe hiding in the bushes with a hammer, a drunk, being led on by a bit of a cock- teaser and his hormones get the better of him, and a couple of kids having a con- sensual shag (although sometimes, a 20+ grooming a 13 year old, is not on)

Every story has to be assessed, but the 2 teens shouldn't get the same stigma as the predators who should be taken out for life.....
 

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