Rape is part of military culture

#4
Joan Smith has a considerable talent as a journalist who has just managed to tar all military personnel as rapists. I would implore Joan to consider this. A majority of her research was historically based and on armies that used the conscript system or indeed autocratic governments, that relied on poor ill disciplined soldiers who functioned 90% of the time on drugs (Sri Lanka, Rwanda etc).
However does that excuse the abuse? Of course not it just shows that you put men or women into any uniformity you will instantly run the risk of being socially moulded into an abuser.

I would suggest that Joan ponders these headlines:

Rape is part of the clergy culture
Rape is part of the reporters culture
Rape is part of the premiership footballers culture (super injunction pending!)

and i could go on, however whilst an important subject and should and raise awareness i wonder if the headline could have just been:

"Rape is part of culture".

Wouldn't sell newspapers though!!
 
#5
Is this a new MATT I missed, or is it on the RSOI?
 
#7
Joan Smith has a considerable talent as a journalist who has just managed to tar all military personnel as rapists.
It seems she is riding the coat tails of the fruitcake that is Germaine Greer who, during Thursdays Question Time, suggested ' all soldiers in certain circumstances will rape' linky about 1' 50 in.

I wont say anymore as this isn't the NAAFI bar

EDITED TO ADD: Sorry just seen the other thread on germaine greer

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#8
I recall reading a book about the invasion of France and the stastics of rapes commited by the Allied forces, the French came first with a good few thousand mainly commited by North African members of the Free French, the Americans second with roughly the same while the British di'nt even make double figures.........
 
#9
From her website;

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"Diary note, Wednesday 25 May: you can hear me on Woman’s Hour, 10 am on BBC Radio 4 this morning, talking to Jenni and Suzi Godson about why women find it hard to discuss masturbation"

All I needed to know.
 
#10
What she doesn't get is that fear is a useful tool in a commanders' hands. When you're a particularly nasty piece of work without scrupules then using the nastier methods of instilling fear on your enemies opens up unthought of avenues. Things like rape; torture; poisoning drinking water and arson come to mind.
In most middle eastern cultures women are still thought of as property and their value is as easily tarnished as their virtue. So when you want to harm a family, then rape the women. To these people raping the girls and women is the same thing as burning crops; blowing up wells and killing the cows, only more fun!

Wholesale rape causes wholesale terror and harms many more than the women alone. If you're up to it.

Thing is. That journo in the first post wants to smear soldiers as rapists. She is clearly a leftie civvie because she doesn't see the difference between the pressed conscript armies used by dicators to suppress their own population and the 21st century Western armies that are sent in harms way to maintain human rights and protect NGO's to help in the dirtiest corners of our world.
Rape as a tool can only be used by certain kind of people in a certain kind of situation. The fact that it has happened a lot in history doesn't mean that anyone in uniform is potentially guilty. As a maths teacher once explained to me: However small the chance, once the number of experiments reaches infinity the probabality of the chance occuring reaches one. Conflict has a long history and women's emancipation has happened only in the last 100 years of 40.000 years or so of human history.

I think the leftie journo who posted this has lost perspective and has forgotten how safe her little corner in North-West Europe is compared to the 90% of the worlds' population who live in backwards cultures wrought with violence, ignorance and religion. Perhaps a guided tour of Uruzgan; Helmand; Basra; Siera Leone and Libya would do her good?
 
#11
When I was in the media drugs,rape,stealing,lies and self engrandment were par for the course.
Not said for effect just what went on. Medias hell I tell you.
 
#12
She is a stupid bint. Luckily she lives in a comfort zone where she can talk such shit. Greer is another silly bitch who wrote one book of note (The Female Eunuch) and has been living high on the hog of spouting a load of left wing drivel ever since.
 
#13
From her website;

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"Diary note, Wednesday 25 May: you can hear me on Woman’s Hour, 10 am on BBC Radio 4 this morning, talking to Jenni and Suzi Godson about why women find it hard to discuss masturbation"

All I needed to know.
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As there is plenty of discussion about self love on here amongst you blokes, here's sth from the women's side. Who knows, perhaps there is a relevant thread over on the fluffy site!
 
#14

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#15
I wonder if Ms Greer thinks that Mrs BA is a rapist who hasn't got around to it yet or perhaps she doesn't consider women to be proper soldiers.
 
#16
Why am I not surprised ...... I'll leave that to Dolly. Much more qualified than I am, being young, fit and having a certain way with words :)
 
#18
Yes, well I remember the Introduction to Rape in week 12 of basic training. Exercise Badajoz: we were taught how to cordon off residential areas and round up all the women and girls. The Platoon Commander explained to us that if we killed their men in front of them, they'd be even more traumatised and compliant...........

How much do these fukwit journalists get paid?

I'd just like to know; because I'd be very happy to spend an hour or two typing up a load of poorly researched crap, about subjects where I have no background knowledge whatsoever. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest if I was too lazy or arrogant to try and reach past my own preconceptions/emotional issues/political agenda.
 
#20
Given the Soviet era propensity for rape, and the large number of women in soviet forces - I wonder how many German men were raped and killed by Soviet Women in 44/45?
 

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