RANT - I HAVE HAD ENOUGH

#1
RANT ON,

Having just seen my pay statement showing, for the 3rd month in a row, my money being sent all around the world except to my bank account and being told I have to wait 6 weeks for it (have waited over 8 and still no sign of the first fcuk up) I have had enough..

As a SNCO with 18 years service (for which I am still not being paid correctly), I am treated like a leper. I have had to live on visa and subs from family for the last 2 months as I have spent savings on mortgage deposit, solicitors fees etc.

The JPA excuse only goes so far and someone somewhere has to take responsibility for the fact that I have not been paid correctly for 3 months. If I am told again that I have to wait 6 weeks because someone didn't do their job properly I will scream.

The juniors I have work for me have either left or signed off. Shiit accommodation that is falling to pieces only months after being put up, PAYD and now JPA - plus limited promotion in my cadre, I have nothing to say to convince them that staying in is the thing to do. If it wasn't for that pension trap, I would tell them to shove this job up their own arrses.

I am going into my admin office at opening time tomorrow and demand that the money I am owed (over £1000) is paid by Friday. What are my chances?

rant off
 
#2
according to JPA Im not due to leave the Army for another 2 years which is when my pension and lump sum become available, actually Ive 2 months until Im out, others in my unit who have also completed 22 years are in the same boat, my admin office are on the case, but its the poor buggers who wont get paid at all this month thanks to JPA that I feel for!
 
#3
D_S,

Surely if the admin office can see the F*** up then an advance of pay or similar should be heading your way.

£1000 for three months, a missing zero perhaps?

Don't forget to bash in a claim for the interest on yr plastic/overdraft for their mistake. Or perhaps you should just stop working until they start paying!
 

B_AND_T

MIA
Book Reviewer
#5
DrainSniffer,

I have all the sympathy in the world, having been in your position (And I'm a fcuking clerk, as you so eloquently put earlier).

I am fed up dealing with people like you, who for no reason have had there pay fcuked up, and having to try and speak to the faceless wonders in Glasgow. Even under the old system they would give you a reference number and say they would pass it on to the correct department who would call me back.

It is extremely frustrating for us to keep giving you the same excuses, but we can only tell you what we are told.

Most of us (fcuking clerks) will do the best for you, however as in all trades there are a few that need slotting.

Good luck, if they fcuk you off go to the SO2 @ Bde. That should help matters.
 
#6
Blind_Pew said:
Take it up with your MP, then watch the sparks fly :)

Good luck with this one.
My MP is Bob Russel, a Lib Dem who is about as much use as the proverbial tits on a fish and will not be getting my vote next week.

My main point is how can I keep on telling junior soldiers that they should stay on and be committed, when all of us are being treated like 3rd world skivies
 
#7
B_AND_T said:
DrainSniffer,

I have all the sympathy in the world, having been in your position (And I'm a fcuking clerk, as you so eloquently put earlier).

I am fed up dealing with people like you, who for no reason have had there pay fcuked up, and having to try and speak to the faceless wonders in Glasgow. Even under the old system they would give you a reference number and say they would pass it on to the correct department who would call me back.

It is extremely frustrating for us to keep giving you the same excuses, but we can only tell you what we are told.

Most of us (fcuking clerks) will do the best for you, however as in all trades there are a few that need slotting.

Good luck, if they fcuk you off go to the SO2 @ Bde. That should help matters.
BandT - I appreciate and know that the clerks in my unit have done their best to sort this out, and I dont blame them at all, Im just sounding off at the wrong people.
 
#8
Good luck D_S

Maybe a win tonight against Liverfool will ease your pain a bit.. :wink:
 

B_AND_T

MIA
Book Reviewer
#9
drain_sniffer said:
B_AND_T said:
DrainSniffer,

I have all the sympathy in the world, having been in your position (And I'm a fcuking clerk, as you so eloquently put earlier).

I am fed up dealing with people like you, who for no reason have had there pay fcuked up, and having to try and speak to the faceless wonders in Glasgow. Even under the old system they would give you a reference number and say they would pass it on to the correct department who would call me back.

It is extremely frustrating for us to keep giving you the same excuses, but we can only tell you what we are told.

Most of us (fcuking clerks) will do the best for you, however as in all trades there are a few that need slotting.

Good luck, if they fcuk you off go to the SO2 @ Bde. That should help matters.
BandT - I appreciate and know that the clerks in my unit have done their best to sort this out, and I dont blame them at all, Im just sounding off at the wrong people.
That's what we are here for (Offers shoulder)
 
#10
drain_sniffer said:
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I am going into my admin office at opening time tomorrow and demand that the money I am owed (over £1000) is paid by Friday. What are my chances?
Probably somewhere between zero and fcuk-all........but best of luck anyway.
 
#11
Over on PPRUNE (I know - enemy but us RAF have had longer to be sick of JPA than you) a suggestion of redress has been made - and quite a good one I think. Go have a look.
 
#13
Go public. Sell your story like the Navy heroes. You will then get the publicity you need to get your pay staff to sort out their act and you get paid for your story. Quids in end of problem. Seriously though hope you get it sorted.
 
#15
Is anyone in the know gonna respond to the central point, which is what the Hell do we tell our subordinates when they start voicing the desire to leave - bon voyage?
 
#17
A Crab SNCO had a similar issue when they changed over. Three months of being paid, then having it recovered in the same month led him to drastic action.

1st Stage was the pay me or else
2nd Stage was to give his notice
3rd Stage was to go to work for a defence contractor the day after he gave in his notice!

The guy was officially absent, yet still coming to meetings at an MOD establishment! Because his head shed are/were sh*t scared, nicking him would lead to repercussions and the bad press JPA would get!

Scum Headlines tomorrow!

Soldier/Sailor/Airman sentenced to Glasshouse for NOT being paid by ANOTHER Gov’t IT F**k up!
 
#18
The Director at DSPS(A) has stated that if anyone has not been paid due to a JPA error, they are to receive an advance of cash (now called an EPIC).

Any problems at unit, go to SO2 SPS at Bde.
 
#19
It is no better if you are over paid, I now have racked up 8+1/2months of Qtring charges,CILCOT, F&L. By my estimate I owe them nearly 5000 quid.

I have been on the phone more than I care about this, I reckon I'll be Okay as I set this cash aside, assuming that they will accept a cheque?? I do not want to spend a year paying 4 day gross pay a month to settle this debt as that along with Qtring charges etc, will hurt me (i hate dipping into savings).

Two questions:

1. Any case law whereby I keep this cash. Failure to collect debts etc, etc
2. Why the **** after 8 months can they not get it right?

More importantly, who is the officer accountable for the contract, if nothing else he and the MoD MUST have an interest in gathering data of our problems to punish EDS for their fcuking shody arrogant wnak service.
 
#20
Look on the bright side, it's not unique to the UK.

A whiles back, I was getting the 'default' BAH: Basic Allowance for Housing, which was about $600 a month, even though I had submitted the form stating my location of residence, which has my BAH at about $2,000 a month.

After several months and now short about seven grand from where I should have been, and pretty much scraping by, they finally acknowledged the error. Of course, you would think that the simple solution would have been to work out the grand total of BAH I should have been paid, subtract the amount of BAH I was actually paid, and then cut a cheque for the difference.

No. That would be too simple. This is the government, remember. The 'correct' solution is to claim back the incorrectly paid BAH, reset the money clock to zero, and then cut a lump sum payment for the correct final total. This, of course, will take some time, at which my precariously balanced budget will topple to the negative. Upon expressing my concerns at the delay, I am told 'But think how happy you will be to get a $10K pay cheque!' Not that this will do me much good when I get the cheque the month after I've had my mortgage foreclosed for being unable to pay the requisite couple of thousand a month for the preceeding number of months. Such pleas fall on deaf ears.

Only solution was to drive down to USPFO (Paymaster's office) and sit on the woman's desk.

NTM
 

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