Rank & Pension of Soldiers Killed on Active Service.

#1
Dear All,

Sergeant Matthew Telford of the Grenadier Guards was promoted to that rank in June 2009.

In November of that same year, Sergeant Telford was one of 5 British soldiers killed when a rogue Afghan policeman opened fire on them. His wife and family will only receive a Corporal's pension since he only held his rank of Sergeant for less than a year. However, he was killed by the enemy on operations whilst wearing three stripes of a Sergeant on active service.

Please sign the petition below to support a change in the rules that deny a widow(er) the pension she/he deserves.

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#2
In Bosnia in 2000, working at the Hospital, we had a Czech EOD SSgt bought in who unfortunately died in theatre after a mine strike. He was repatrited to his homeland as a Lt, which was their policy on death on active service.
 
#3
In Bosnia in 2000, working at the Hospital, we had a Czech EOD SSgt bought in who unfortunately died in theatre after a mine strike. He was repatrited to his homeland as a Lt, which was their policy on death on active service.
Staff Sargeant to Subbie! The heartless bastards, have they no shame?
 
#4
Complete travesty, how can any pen pusher advocate denying a family of a British soldier, the pension due at the rank he died with, this 1 year rule should be overturned immediately.

So whilst a soldiers family are screwed over, bankers are being paid a small forune in bonuses and pensions, after we have handed another 10 billon now to Ireland this time because of the money that the banks now need down South of me.

Who again has done more for this country and deserves rewarding, the soldier who paid the supreme sacrifice to the United Kingdom or the bankers?
 
#6
This is unfair if the situation is as described.

But before the outrage bus gets into 2nd gear, is it possible for someone
with a good knowledge of the AFCS to confirm that this would be the situation?

The Direct Gov site described the death-in-service award as follows;

The scheme has three main components payable in the event of a death-

The Survivor's Guaranteed Income Payment(SGIP) which is payable for life to the person's spouse, civil partner or surviving adult dependant.
In cetrain circumstances, a Bereavement Grant payable to the person'spouse, civil partner or surviving adult dependant
Where applicable, a Child's Payment payable to or in respect of an eligible child.
AFCS Introduction
AFCS Eligibility Criteria
AFCS and Payment for Injury
AFCS and Payment for Death
Making a claim
Calculating the Survivor's Guaranteed Income Payment.

The SGIP is arrived at using 60% of the deceased's full Guaranteed Income Payment. The final figure is worked out by multiplying the person's salary at the time of death by the relevant listed age factor factor and then by 0.6.

Example

A person aged 30 dies- his salary is £32,000 on the day of his death. The GIP factor for someone aged 30 is 0.841. Therefore the calculation is 32,000 x 0.841 x 0.6 = £16,147.20.

The MOD will not make additional payments if there is more than one surviving spouse, the ordinary payment will simply be split into the number of entitles surviving spouses.
It makes no mention of rank, merely salary at time of death.
Whether that is misleading or not and rank must be held for a year, I don't know-perhaps someone can let us know?
 
#7
OK, assuming he was on the 1975 scheme and hadn't quite reached his 22, the following appears to apply:

E.1 Pensions for surviving spouse or surviving civil partners’
(1) If an active member, a deferred member or a pensioner member dies leaving a surviving
spouse or surviving civil partner, subject to rules E.13, E.14 and E.27 and the following
paragraphs of this rule, the surviving spouse or surviving civil partner is entitled to a pension for
life.

...

E.2 Amount of pension under rule E.1: active members

...

(3) For the purposes of this rule the member’s notional pension amount is the amount of the
annual pension to which the member would have been entitled—
(a) under rule D.9 (officers) or rule D.10 (other ranks) if the member had qualified for a
pension under rule D.9 on the date of death.
Rule D10 states:

D.10 Rank additions: other ranks
(1) This rule applies if at any time in the 5 year period immediately preceding discharge—
(a) the member holds a rank higher than the member’s pension rank for a period of at least
one year
or periods amounting in aggregate to at least one year; or
(b) the member holds a paid acting rank higher than the member’s pension rank for a period
of at least one year or periods amounting in aggregate to at least one year.
So I'm adraid it does appear as though there is a 1 year rule.

All from http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/44DA...andAtrributableBenefitsScheme_Warrant2010.pdf Always best to look at the actual regs rather than a summary of them.
 

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