Ranger Brigade(s)

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We've got to stop this nonsense of shrinking the definition of a formation just to have more of them for the sake of having more (and skewing the ratio of OFs to ORs). Battalion, brigade, division, these words don't convey any useful meaning any more.
That exactly why they like calling everything and anything a Cohort, it can mean anything you want it to.
 
I suspect there are a few reasons, though what they are exactly is probably anyone's guess. One is likely to be a move to make it closer to what the USA recognises.

In name only.
 

riksavage

War Hero
In name only.
I worked with C-11 US Special Forces based out of Okinawa on three occasions back in the 90s in HK. They were classed as a tier three assets then. Small teams. From memory they were all ‘Chiefs’, all were dive trained (Drager), demolition trained (very creative, not just breaching, but building IEDs), Soviet block weapons trained, second language trained, plus they always came with great medics. Not overly fit (they weren’t fell runners), more your gym monkey types. They were very much focused on working with and training local forces across APAC, so very much the model the UK is going down by the looks of things. My question is does the UK have the schools/specialist courses those C-11 guys had/have access to? They were top blokes, pretty humble and loved a night out. Two had a fight in our mess one night and crashed through the veranda window. One of the antagonists was a native Indian they called Chief, so we called him ‘Chief Chief’.
 

Mölders 1

War Hero
It would make sense if each of the Guards capbadges had 800-odd blokes but the Scots and Welsh Guards have only about 350 each, the Guards could muster only 1 ceremonial battalion and 1 operational battalion between them!
Are the Welsh Guards understrength?

My Cousin serves with them and he hasn't mentioned anything about it.
 

SignalFire

Old-Salt
Not sure it's that simple...

As I understand it, Ranger (in SO Bde) gets bits of the four SpecInfs... the SFAB Bde gets the rump of those four battalions

So net gain of one Battalion
Who will be manning the SFAB brigades? the MOD made a clear distinction between the SOB and SFAB Brigades.
 
I worked with C-11 US Special Forces based out of Okinawa on three occasions back in the 90s in HK. They were classed as a tier three assets then. Small teams. From memory they were all ‘Chiefs’, all were dive trained (Drager), demolition trained (very creative, not just breaching, but building IEDs), Soviet block weapons trained, second language trained, plus they always came with great medics. Not overly fit (they weren’t fell runners), more your gym monkey types. They were very much focused on working with and training local forces across APAC, so very much the model the UK is going down by the looks of things. My question is does the UK have the schools/specialist courses those C-11 guys had/have access to? They were top blokes, pretty humble and loved a night out. Two had a fight in our mess one night and crashed through the veranda window. One of the antagonists was a native Indian they called Chief, so we called him ‘Chief Chief’.
Why did the RHKP need Special Forces training from USSF, 1 battalion 1st Special Forces Group?
 
Have a listen direct to Carter

He makes a couple of comparisons that will put a few noses out of joint at the 2 min mark




Para's and Marines are high end conventional forces - The Rangers will be special forces.
'Don't fold your arms, you'll grow tits'. Sgt Tommy Taplin RE 3 Troop 85/7.
 
Theres already 4 regiments at 250 man strength for training allies

The SDR suggests These will be joined by the ranger regiment battalions


Which begs the questions
Do we really need the non ranger half battalions
Will we see them quietly disapeer and manpower distributed elsewhere
 
Perhaps that training will feature diversity and inclusion?
I remember reading somewhere in a paper that in 2006 when it was all going pear shaped for the British in Southern Iraqi there was some FCO civil advisor type with the civil administration saying he was being bombarded by the Blair government types from up above with directives wanting to know how many diversity and inclusion seminars he had conducted and all that type of guff. He replied that he couldn't even leave the base to go and have tea with the local governor without being escorted by a company of British troops in Warriors.
 
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