Random question about the SERE course

#1
Random question - I'm in the TA (RLC) and was wondering do some TA units get SERE trained, such as the infantry as an example? Or are only some units SERE trained when going on operations, such as Afghan - If at all?
Or do none of the TA units (apart from the SAS for obvious reasons) get SERE trained, just the regulars?

If some TA units get SERE trained, is it possible I could just ask to go on one course?
 
#2
Random question - I'm in the TA (RLC) and was wondering do some TA units get SERE trained, such as the infantry as an example? Or are only some units SERE trained when going on operations, such as Afghan - If at all?
Or do none of the TA units (apart from the SAS for obvious reasons) get SERE trained, just the regulars?

If some TA units get SERE trained, is it possible I could just ask to go on one course?
SERE is a MATT isn't it?

Are you sure you know what you're on about?

Describe the course you want and what you expect to get out of it.
 
#3
SERE is a MATT isn't it?

Are you sure you know what you're on about?

Describe the course you want and what you expect to get out of it.
I got the illusion it was a course, but I may stand corrected.

Describe the course you want and what you expect to get out of it.
You'd learn to live off the land (what plants are edible etc), learn to escape/resist the enemy, and part of the course would be instructors playing as enemy, giving you a rough time and you got to 'escape' from them.

Does that help at all? Or have I got the wrong end of the stick on a SERE's course?

SERE link: Survive, Evade, Resist, Extract - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I know it says basic core of the regular MATT's, but is there an actual 'course' not just the basics for the TA?
 
#4
The course is run from RAF St Mawgan, but there's absolutely no justification for a STAB loggie to get on one.
 
#5
If you're thinking of MATT 8 (Survive, Evade, Resist, Extract (SERE)), it consists of nothing more strenuous than watching a video featuring Andy McNab and Ray Mears. You could watch it outdoors if you're feeling really keen.
 
#6
Random question - I'm in the TA (RLC) and was wondering do some TA units get SERE trained, such as the infantry as an example? Or are only some units SERE trained when going on operations, such as Afghan - If at all?
Or do none of the TA units (apart from the SAS for obvious reasons) get SERE trained, just the regulars?

If some TA units get SERE trained, is it possible I could just ask to go on one course?
You billy big-timing ****. Fúck off.
 
#7
SERE is an Americanisation word for a course we simply describe as a 'Survival Course'

Students who are selected to attend UK variants of the 'Survival Course' are in the 'Prone to Capture' job description. I know that can be a very moot point since my days in HM Forces.

RAF St.Mawgan is (was?) the home of the RAF candidates, though SF flying crew were encouraged to attend the Army course sponsored by 22 SAS. The Hereford course caters for all three services.

The Navy ( in my BAOR time) had their school at HMS Daedalus (sp?) I think.
 
#8
Random question - I'm in the TA (RLC) and was wondering do some TA units get SERE trained, such as the infantry as an example? Or are only some units SERE trained when going on operations, such as Afghan - If at all?
Or do none of the TA units (apart from the SAS for obvious reasons) get SERE trained, just the regulars?

If some TA units get SERE trained, is it possible I could just ask to go on one course?
It's been a while but AIUI there was a progression of courses leading up to you becoming a qualified SERE Instructor for your sub unit.

The starter for ten was the Basic Land Survival Course, which allowed you to progress onto the next one (I forget the name) ending with an Instructor Qual.

The drawback is all these courses are a minimum of 5 days long and they don't run TA courses, so your odds of getting the necessary 3 weeks worth of courses in are slimmer than a slim thing.

Ironically, this will probably be the slimmest thing seen in an RLC TA unit.

Still, if you punch "SERE" into DII all the info comes up.
 

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LE
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#9
I got the illusion it was a course, but I may stand corrected.


You'd learn to live off the land (what plants are edible etc), learn to escape/resist the enemy, and part of the course would be instructors playing as enemy, giving you a rough time and you got to 'escape' from them.

Does that help at all? Or have I got the wrong end of the stick on a SERE's course?

SERE link: Survive, Evade, Resist, Extract - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I know it says basic core of the regular MATT's, but is there an actual 'course' not just the basics for the TA?
PM Door Bundle, it's one of his areas of expertise.
 
#10
A STAB loggie prone to capture?
I'd have thought you'd be more prone to bedwetting and acid reflux.
 
#11
If you're thinking of MATT 8 (Survive, Evade, Resist, Extract (SERE)), it consists of nothing more strenuous than watching a video featuring Andy McNab and Ray Mears. You could watch it outdoors if you're feeling really keen.
IIRC the last time I watched this it featured 3 RAF Regt types bimbling round a SENTA type area. Really useful for Afghanistan. More might have come but I lost the will to stay awake.
 
#12
Checks the thread, "Just-ta", which is strange because from the majority of the content, it would appear to be "just-abuse".

This site has a NAAFI thread for a reason, just saying like.
 
#13
SERE A - MATT 8 - Watch the video.

SERE B - 1 week course, for isolated personnel.

SERE C 2 week course, for personnel who can be a lot more isolated.

You MAY be classed into B dependant on your job and the type of Operation.

As for the RLC I know of quite a few who fall into the B & C group.
 
#14
Random question - I'm in the TA (RLC) and was wondering do some TA units get SERE trained, such as the infantry as an example? Or are only some units SERE trained when going on operations, such as Afghan - If at all?
Or do none of the TA units (apart from the SAS for obvious reasons) get SERE trained, just the regulars?

If some TA units get SERE trained, is it possible I could just ask to go on one course?

In a nutshell "yes" thus proving a lot of people on here know the square route of **** all. As a loggie STAB I attended a SERE B course last year down in Cornwall.However the chances of getting on one are pretty slim unless you are in a specific role in the RLC.Really good course,instructors are top quality,there are numerous courses which can be done.
 
#15
The people you need to speak to are Defence Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Extraction (SERE) Training Organisation (DSTO)

The are based at St Mawgan and deliver Level B, Level C, Unit SERE Instructor and Environmental SERE courses.

The DII site is a lot clearer with links to course requirements and dates.


RAF St Mawgan - Defence SERE Training


PM me for any details,
 
#16
I went on a Coy organised weekend geared around SERE. Started off with defending a FOB and casevacs to a HLS all night, with the aim to get as little sleep as possible. Carried out a deliberate attack on an En positions before being told we'd been surrounded and had to advoid capture whilst getting to a series of RVs. On completion of the 'exercise phase' we were taught basic shelter construction and how to live off the land, including how to cook animals we'd caught. Finished on the Sunday with a bit of phys and sections attacks. All in all a very, very, very enjoyable weekend with a good bit of training at its core. No reason why your Coy/Sqn couldn't organise the same thing or at least something similar to it.
 

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LE
Kit Reviewer
#17
SERE is an Americanisation word for a course we simply describe as a 'Survival Course'

Students who are selected to attend UK variants of the 'Survival Course' are in the 'Prone to Capture' job description. I know that can be a very moot point since my days in HM Forces.

RAF St.Mawgan is (was?) the home of the RAF candidates, though SF flying crew were encouraged to attend the Army course sponsored by 22 SAS. The Hereford course caters for all three services.

The Navy ( in my BAOR time) had their school at HMS Daedalus (sp?) I think.
Sqn Ldr Parker ?
 
#18
If you're thinking of MATT 8 (Survive, Evade, Resist, Extract (SERE)), it consists of nothing more strenuous than watching a video featuring Andy McNab and Ray Mears. You could watch it outdoors if you're feeling really keen.
I rather enjoyed it, as I'm a big fan of Ray, but I did feel a bit like I felt when reading the safety booklet on a passenger jet - you know, the one with the plane floating nicely on a millpond-like sea, while everyone calmly steps out.
Kind of like, 'hmmm, yes - THAT'll be how it goes...'
 
#19
Firstly I would like to thank those who replied seriously and maturely.
Secondly, I would like to point out to those immature butthurt fags who feel the need to post shit like 'STAB' and '**** off' etc, who clearly are upset they couldn't get in to the army for whatever reason, or butthurt because the cuts are affecting them and so they feel the need to take it out on the TA people - That you need to **** off, and grow up.

It's been a while but AIUI there was a progression of courses leading up to you becoming a qualified SERE Instructor for your sub unit.

The starter for ten was the Basic Land Survival Course, which allowed you to progress onto the next one (I forget the name) ending with an Instructor Qual.

The drawback is all these courses are a minimum of 5 days long and they don't run TA courses, so your odds of getting the necessary 3 weeks worth of courses in are slimmer than a slim thing.

Ironically, this will probably be the slimmest thing seen in an RLC TA unit.

Still, if you punch "SERE" into DII all the info comes up.
Thanks for your share, I will look inquire about the Basic Land Survival course, and try to get on one -though noted, understand the chances are slim.

IIRC the last time I watched this it featured 3 RAF Regt types bimbling round a SENTA type area. Really useful for Afghanistan. More might have come but I lost the will to stay awake.
Yet another reason why I want to do a SERE course - Afghanistan. Hopefully, I will do Herrick 19.
I know I may be RLC, but still knowing that I have extra training to essentially keep me safe, would put me at ease when knowing there will be a slim chance the taliban get's brave and decides to raid us and it's me they capture.
SERE A - MATT 8 - Watch the video.

SERE B - 1 week course, for isolated personnel.

SERE C 2 week course, for personnel who can be a lot more isolated.

You MAY be classed into B dependant on your job and the type of Operation.

As for the RLC I know of quite a few who fall into the B & C group.
Would you be able to tell me, if you can, what types of RLC will fall into the SERE category (supplier/reme etc)?
I don't mean that I'll leave my unit just to watch a video or get on a course.

In a nutshell "yes" thus proving a lot of people on here know the square route of **** all. As a loggie STAB I attended a SERE B course last year down in Cornwall.However the chances of getting on one are pretty slim unless you are in a specific role in the RLC.Really good course,instructors are top quality,there are numerous courses which can be done.
proving a lot of people on here know the square route of **** all
I sort of gathered that by the comments I got on this post, and generally browsing the website before I registered.
Thanks for the detailed info - appreciate that, and will defo help when trying to speak to my admin about getting on it, though I know you and another lad said there is a slim chance. Nonetheless, what's to lose eh.
Don't suppose you'd know some of the roles that the RLC would 'require' or get this training, do you?

The people you need to speak to are Defence Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Extraction (SERE) Training Organisation (DSTO)

The are based at St Mawgan and deliver Level B, Level C, Unit SERE Instructor and Environmental SERE courses.

The DII site is a lot clearer with links to course requirements and dates.

RAF St Mawgan - Defence SERE Training

PM me for any details,
Thanks for your post and link - Will definitely look in to trying to get on a course/instructor course, though as a few have said - it's slim chances, but worth a shot. Thanks.

Cheers guys for your help on this. - The mature ones.
 
#20
I wish you and your blithe enthusiasm to have a really shit time had been around ten years ago. You could have had my Mod90 and slot and done it on my behalf. I'd only have charged you a couple of hundred of quid for it too...
 
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