Random Drug Testing

#1
Appologies if this should be in a different forum but need some info.

Having been discharged about the same time as Monty i'm well out touch with things modern but i have few serious questions.

1. I am correct that RDT is now in force?

2. Is failing a test an automatic discharge?

3. If a unit was to recieve an anonimous tip that soldier A was taking drugs would he then get pulled in for testing?

It's just something i overheard in the local the other day.

I may have heard 2+2 and made 5, but if i'm right i would like to try to do something positive.
 
#3
Yes, to ALL questions.

If you tip off the unit, or RMP or even CDT direct they will do the rest.

If the guy is just larging it (stupidly) in the pub, he will be ok. If positive he'll be dealt with. Far better than to allow him to continue possibly putting his mates at risk on the ranges and in barracks and leaving himself open to blackmail for small arms (for example).
 
#4
No one likes a dirty grass....especially creepy old ones that earwig in pubs whilst strapping young soldiers chat....Id rather deploy with someone who has had a cheeky line at the weekend than someone who has habitually pickled their insides day in day out for a decade
 
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#5
Juan_Ramirez_III said:
No one likes a dirty grass....especially creepy old ones that earwig in pubs whilst strapping young soldiers chat....Id rather deploy with someone who has had a cheeky line at the weekend than someone who has habitually pickled their insides day in day out for a decade
Then I put it to you that you're a bell end of the highest order. I would not be happy if I knew my oppo was out every night tripping of his tits.
 
#6
Juan_Ramirez_III said:
No one likes a dirty grass....especially creepy old ones that earwig in pubs whilst strapping young soldiers chat....Id rather deploy with someone who has had a cheeky line at the weekend than someone who has habitually pickled their insides day in day out for a decade

Careful now- realism like that will not be popular on here.

see above- didn't even read your post right!
 
#7
phil37 said:
Report them immediately - if positive then they will be discharged. There are very few second chances.
I once knew a girl who told me she went out with a squaddie in the early 1990s . I think this was before CDT and she told me he was busted for testing positive for cannabis and he'd be be randomly checked

I'm just sort of curious as to why he would have got a second chance ?
 
#8
Its worth noting that it is not called Random Drug Testing but Compulsory Drug Testing. When the CDT team does a ‘random’ test of a unit the selection process is akin to the Afghan electoral system.
 
#10
Being in the Army and using or carrying drugs are not compatible.

Get caught - get discharged. End of.

Even if CIVPOL arrest you and you try to keep it quiet, once convicted your details will be passed by the Home Office to RMPCRO for checking. They will cross reference your DOB and Name with the Nominal Roll of the Army. If there is a match your CO will be informed.

Once it's done it's too late - no excuses accepted.
 
#11
crow_bag said:
Juan_Ramirez_III said:
No one likes a dirty grass....especially creepy old ones that earwig in pubs whilst strapping young soldiers chat....Id rather deploy with someone who has had a cheeky line at the weekend than someone who has habitually pickled their insides day in day out for a decade
Then I put it to you that you're a bell end of the highest order. I would not be happy if I knew my oppo was out every night tripping of his tits.
Do you borrow your vocabulary from UK Gold re-runs of Rumpole of the Bailey ?

No one goes 'out every night tripping off their t*ts', I found that a measured amount of cocaine on a Friday night interspersed with bottled lager and water in equal measures sufficed as long as the rest of the weekend was spent 'chillaxin' with a few jellies and a couple of Zopiclones along with a few tasty joints and plenty of scran and good old H20 inside me..

Come Monday morning I was as bright as a button, unlike the coughing, spewing yellow tinged alchofrolic's that clawed their way through the working week as a comedically visual embarrassment to themselves and their capbadge.. :D
 
#12
Juan_Ramirez_III said:
crow_bag said:
Juan_Ramirez_III said:
No one likes a dirty grass....especially creepy old ones that earwig in pubs whilst strapping young soldiers chat....Id rather deploy with someone who has had a cheeky line at the weekend than someone who has habitually pickled their insides day in day out for a decade
Then I put it to you that you're a bell end of the highest order. I would not be happy if I knew my oppo was out every night tripping of his tits.
Do you borrow your vocabulary from UK Gold re-runs of Rumpole of the Bailey ?

No one goes 'out every night tripping off their t*ts', I found that a measured amount of cocaine on a Friday night interspersed with bottled lager and water in equal measures sufficed as long as the rest of the weekend was spent 'chillaxin' with a few jellies and a couple of Zopiclones along with a few tasty joints and plenty of scran and good old H20 inside me..

Come Monday morning I was as bright as a button, unlike the coughing, spewing yellow tinged alchofrolic's that clawed their way through the working week as a visual embarrassment to themselves and their capbadge.. :D
*Snigger*
 
#13
Juan_Ramirez_III said:
No one likes a dirty grass....especially creepy old ones that earwig in pubs whilst strapping young soldiers chat....Id rather deploy with someone who has had a cheeky line at the weekend than someone who has habitually pickled their insides day in day out for a decade
JR 111, Happy 10th day Anniversary on ARRSE. Looking at some of your other posts you will go far.

Are you Wedges’ love child?
 
#14
devilish said:
Juan_Ramirez_III said:
crow_bag said:
Juan_Ramirez_III said:
No one likes a dirty grass....especially creepy old ones that earwig in pubs whilst strapping young soldiers chat....Id rather deploy with someone who has had a cheeky line at the weekend than someone who has habitually pickled their insides day in day out for a decade
Then I put it to you that you're a bell end of the highest order. I would not be happy if I knew my oppo was out every night tripping of his tits.
Do you borrow your vocabulary from UK Gold re-runs of Rumpole of the Bailey ?

No one goes 'out every night tripping off their t*ts', I found that a measured amount of cocaine on a Friday night interspersed with bottled lager and water in equal measures sufficed as long as the rest of the weekend was spent 'chillaxin' with a few jellies and a couple of Zopiclones along with a few tasty joints and plenty of scran and good old H20 inside me..

Come Monday morning I was as bright as a button, unlike the coughing, spewing yellow tinged alchofrolic's that clawed their way through the working week as a visual embarrassment to themselves and their capbadge.. :D
*Snigger*

Other people turning up for work hungover (which I accept is wrong, even though I do it myself occasionally) is no excuse for recreational use of illegal drugs.

The effects of alcohol are well known and its supply well regulated and controlled. Illegal drugs bought from a guy who knows a guy who f**ked a guy who did time with a guy etc bring in a whole spectrum of dangerous possibilities as well as the known dangers of the drug in question.
There is no such thing as a "cheeky line" and there is no telling that you will be able to stop at just one. Cocaine is a class A drug for a very good reason, no matter what you tell yourself.
 
#15
General_Layabout said:
Appologies if this should be in a different forum but need some info.

Having been discharged about the same time as Monty i'm well out touch with things modern but i have few serious questions.

1. I am correct that RDT is now in force?

2. Is failing a test an automatic discharge?

3. If a unit was to recieve an anonimous tip that soldier A was taking drugs would he then get pulled in for testing?

It's just something i overheard in the local the other day.

I may have heard 2+2 and made 5, but if i'm right i would like to try to do something positive.

1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes
 
#16
bluebells said:
Juan_Ramirez_III said:
No one likes a dirty grass....especially creepy old ones that earwig in pubs whilst strapping young soldiers chat....Id rather deploy with someone who has had a cheeky line at the weekend than someone who has habitually pickled their insides day in day out for a decade
JR 111, Happy 10th day Anniversary on ARRSE. Looking at some of your other posts you will go far.

Are you Wedges’ love child?
And as sure as eggs is eggs a strange woman pipes in for the team with an inane comment about how long I've been been on the site as if to suggest I should adopt a meek and submissive manner until my post count and time clock is fat and fruitful :D .... Youve made yourself look a bit silly there love, there are many things in life to swell with pride about but your 'time in' on a website, for me, in a pride sense ranks somewhere between me getting a certificate for jumping in the deep end all by myself at 9 years old and spewing into the font last year at a Christening on my way out of the service..

I like your avatar, you can tell a lot from a persons mostly unconcious choice of their uploaded visual representation....Generally our more porky sisters, bereft of friendship, love and whilst still clutching at a fast fading batch of happy childhood memories tend to go for the cutsie bear/cat/puppy/comedy tiger approach, a telling display of a lonely existence punctured with bouts of self loathing, let downs and regret.
 
#17
Juan_Ramirez_III said:
bluebells said:
Juan_Ramirez_III said:
No one likes a dirty grass....especially creepy old ones that earwig in pubs whilst strapping young soldiers chat....Id rather deploy with someone who has had a cheeky line at the weekend than someone who has habitually pickled their insides day in day out for a decade
JR 111, Happy 10th day Anniversary on ARRSE. Looking at some of your other posts you will go far.

Are you Wedges’ love child?
And as sure as eggs is eggs a strange woman pipes in for the team with an inane comment about how long I've been been on the site as if to suggest I should adopt a meek and submissive manner until my post count and time clock is fat and fruitful :D ....

I like your avatar, you can tell a lot from a persons mostly unconcious choice of their uploaded visual representation....Generally our more porky sisters, bereft of friendship, love and whilst still clutching at a fast fading batch of happy childhood memories tend to go for the cutsie bear/cat/puppy/comedy tiger approach, a telling display of a lonely existence punctured with bouts of self loathing, let downs and regret.
You're an old arrse with a new face and I claim my £5.

Flash?
 
#18
Drugs are not allowed. If you can't follow the basics, what other rules are you breaking? If you get caught tough titty, you can't be trusted and should be out on your ear, I wouldn't want you watching my back.
 
#19
Ord_Sgt said:
Drugs are not allowed. If you can't follow the basics, what other rules are you breaking? If you get caught tough titty, you can't be trusted and should be out on your ear, I wouldn't want you watching my back.
No, but waiting until the usual suspects are all crammed in one room on a Saturday and hitting the pipe, then booting the f*ck out of the door and screaming that half the guard shift and the Provo are ripping the block apart is possibly the funniest thing Ive ever done, apart from banging a struck thundie down the exhaust of a Vauxhall Frontera..

What about my illustrious Corps ? At one point there were that many lads juiced up it looked like Magnús Ver Magnússon had started a breeding programme with a doe eyed White Rhino, it's the public perception and pre disposed outrage that drives debates like these thus rendering them nonsensical.

Anyone fancy a weekend away next month ?

http://www.amsterdamcitytours.com/cannabis.html

I'm outraged, all that weed and not a f*cking Ginsters pastie or a family sized pack of monster munch in sight.. :x
 
#20
Other people turning up for work hungover (which I accept is wrong, even though I do it myself occasionally) is no excuse for recreational use of illegal drugs.

The effects of alcohol are well known and its supply well regulated and controlled. Illegal drugs bought from a guy who knows a guy who f**ked a guy who did time with a guy etc bring in a whole spectrum of dangerous possibilities as well as the known dangers of the drug in question.
There is no such thing as a "cheeky line" and there is no telling that you will be able to stop at just one. Cocaine is a class A drug for a very good reason, no matter what you tell yourself.
Holy Mary and Joseph you are f*cking boring ! Worse than the fat c*nt who sat next to me from Leeds to Kings Cross last month that attempted to engage me on matters such as the best Cathederal City and the environmental responsibility that non rural residents should shoulder for using big motors..yuck

Class A's and their subsequent impact are really down to a question of purity, a decent nose full from a reputable source (generally only to be encountered North of Leicester but South of Darlington) will unlock specific powers that would have otherwise lain dormant, such as watching 13 episodes of QI back to back whilst scribbling down all the bits that make you go "WOOOOOOOOW" whilst staring in wide eyed wonderment at your equally spazzed out friends and grinding your teeth to a fine chalky powder..
 

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