RAMC boxing.

#1
A question that has never been answered with any degree of satisfaction for me is can members of the RAMC or medics in general box? Be it squadron/regimental level or higher I have heard it said that due to Geneva convention rules Medics hold the same status as padres etc. as non-combatants and are therefore not allowed to box... If so does this apply to all martial arts?
 
#3
The geneva convention bans boxing, but overlooks sparring with headguard so you should be ok unless you go professional.

Alternatively you could do mixed martial arts. This is a young sport and hasn't yet caught the attention of those peskie war dodgers...although after this little incident OOPS it won't be long before this is also banned
 

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#6
Don't see why your capbadge should have any say in you taking part in a perfectly legitimate sport. And what would the GC have to do with boxing?
 

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#8
ShooterMcGannon said:
I have heard it said on a few occasions as a reason why members of the AMS can't box, but I have never actually SEEN it.
Personally I think thats complete bollocks.
 
#10
Forastero said:
ShooterMcGannon said:
I have heard it said on a few occasions as a reason why members of the AMS can't box, but I have never actually SEEN it.
Personally I think thats complete bollocks.
Well that's been my feeling on the whole situation for quite some time, having not found any regs/information to support it either way.
 
#11
jew_unit said:
RAMC are not non-combatant, only the RAChD are.
The RAChD have a very strong boxing squad, its the RADC who have a blanket ban on Boxing, thats because they spend too much time repairing the damage, plus they got sick of doing gumshield impressions

I'm not sure where you're getting your info from but its a bit mixed up. Go back to your AFCO they have all the current info. Don't get side tracked into joining the paras though, they do milling which doesn't really count as a sport never mind a combat sport
 

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#12
The only time I have seen the AMS box officially was 3 Armd Fd Amb in about 1992, they were coached by an ex-Para TFI Sgt, who honed them into a decent team, they boxed in the BAOR Minor Units and did quite well if I recall.

Someone bought up the GC bollox at the time but to no avail, the AMS never box as it wasnt one of the things we did. Far more happy with rugby and poofball. If someone is out there willing to put time in with the lads and lasses then they will box!
 
#13
I believe Phil Rice at 5 Armd used to box, will asked on another forum. But I don't think RAMC are banned, just not good at it. There was also a guy at 23 in the 80's as well.

If in doubt, give the Army Sports Council (or the equivalent now) a bell.

CTC
 
#14
Boxing is not officially encouraged by the RAMC because of the possibility of serious injury. That is that the RAMC do not have a Corps Boxing Team and don't endorse inter-unit boxing, they don't ban it though, just discourage it.
At 16 we regularly used to have boxing bouts although it was more akin to milling than the noble art as envisaged by the Marquis of Queensberry!
I'm told that prior to the RAMC stance of non support the RAMC had quite a fearsome reputation for it's boxers.
The Geneva Convention classes medics as protected personnel but that doesn't mean protected from a good right hook.
 
#15
I certainly remember a boxing shield on the wall of the sports bar (The huts) at Keogh. (Many a good after match piss up in there) Not sure if it was RAMC units or an Army units one, but it was between the 50's-late- 60's.

CTC
 

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#16
Markintime said:
Boxing is not officially encouraged by the RAMC because of the possibility of serious injury. That is that the RAMC do not have a Corps Boxing Team and don't endorse inter-unit boxing, they don't ban it though, just discourage it.
At 16 we regularly used to have boxing bouts although it was more akin to milling than the noble art as envisaged by the Marquis of Queensberry!
I'm told that prior to the RAMC stance of non support the RAMC had quite a fearsome reputation for it's boxers.
The Geneva Convention classes medics as protected personnel but that doesn't mean protected from a good right hook.
I've never seen or heard anything to suggest that 'they' discourage it. Who do you mean by 'they' and where have you seen/heard this active discouragement?
 
#17
Forastero said:
Markintime said:
Boxing is not officially encouraged by the RAMC because of the possibility of serious injury. That is that the RAMC do not have a Corps Boxing Team and don't endorse inter-unit boxing, they don't ban it though, just discourage it.
At 16 we regularly used to have boxing bouts although it was more akin to milling than the noble art as envisaged by the Marquis of Queensberry!
I'm told that prior to the RAMC stance of non support the RAMC had quite a fearsome reputation for it's boxers.
The Geneva Convention classes medics as protected personnel but that doesn't mean protected from a good right hook.
I've never seen or heard anything to suggest that 'they' discourage it. Who do you mean by 'they' and where have you seen/heard this active discouragement?
Try rephrasing the question and I might consider answering it, you abrasive prick.
 

Forastero

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#18
Bless. Feeling a little sensitive are we? Perfectly reasonable question on my part, if you don't want to answer it just say so instead of trying to be an internet hardman.
 
#19
There is actually nothing to stop the AMS from boxing................except an in depth knowledge of possible outcomes and a C2 that in the main, frown on you being involved. As for the GC..................why on earth would the convention want to prevent sport??
 
#20
thegimp said:
jew_unit said:
RAMC are not non-combatant, only the RAChD are.
The RAChD have a very strong boxing squad, its the RADC who have a blanket ban on Boxing, thats because they spend too much time repairing the damage, plus they got sick of doing gumshield impressions

I'm not sure where you're getting your info from but its a bit mixed up. Go back to your AFCO they have all the current info. Don't get side tracked into joining the paras though, they do milling which doesn't really count as a sport never mind a combat sport
I didn't say anything about boxing. I just corrected the original poster who made the usual error of thinking that the RAMC are non-combatant.

I'm impressed with the padres doing Father Mulcahy impressions though.
 

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