RAF typhoons over 3 years old to be scrapped?

#1
Apologies if this subject is covered elsewhere on ARRSE,but there are reports in the media that Typhoons over 3 years old will be scrapped as there are insufficient funds to modify them.

Is this true?.

I guess as the RAF are contracted to purchase far more of these airplanes than they need under current plans,it makes sense to scrap the older airframes.

Comments?
 
#3
My understanding of it from what I read in The Times is that the Tranche 1 models are going to be scrapped or sold as a cost saving measure. Let's hope they deploy the Tranche 2 and up models to Afghan so they actually get to test their mettle and prove the cost was worth it.
 
#4
53 Tranche 1 Eurofighter Typhoons to go in 2015. as it costs to much to bring them up to Tranche 3 standards. No they won't be scrapped, more like sold off.

Dave
 
#7
Maybe the Saudis will replace their F3s with them.
 
#12
I borrowed this off another forum, hope MM doesn't mind!

This article relates to the initial Tranche 1 Typhoons which were realistically always going to be converted for spares fairly rapidly. They were effectively an interim standard very different to the Tranche 2 and definitive Tranche 3 Typhoons now being delivered. Likewise, Tornado F2s were all ditched within a few years of delivery in the late 80s once the F3s came off the production line.

Tranche 3 are the most capable which inevitably all the export customers want. Saudi had a load diverted from the RAF and now Oman is being offered the same deal with spares and training capacity also being offered up as an incentive by HMG.

The UK originally ordered 232 Typhoons but only 160 have been committed to (53 Tranche 1s, 67 Tranche 2s and 40 Tranche 3As). It is likely that we’ll end up with a fleet of around 80 Typhoon once SDSR and PR11/12… have run their course.

If we get F-35 at all, I can't see us having more than 50 whether they be RAF, RN or Joint.
 
#14
So how many jets will the RAF have in 5 years time?
Optimistic assumption that there will be a RAF in 5 years time?.If so maybe the Fighter Squadron will have around 25 jets,5 of which will be serviceable at any one time.
 
#15
53 Tranche 1 Eurofighter Typhoons to go in 2015. as it costs to much to bring them up to Tranche 3 standards. No they won't be scrapped, more like sold off.

Dave
I am confused now... what upgrades are required that don't entail swapping out one box for another? Wasn't the Typhoon designed to be upgraded on the fly?
 
#16
Why do they even bother building a "Tranche 1" airframe in the first place, if it is known that planned upgrades are scheduled anyway? Why order so many T1?
 
#17
Why do they even bother building a "Tranche 1" airframe in the first place, if it is known that planned upgrades are scheduled anyway? Why order so many T1?
I was thinking the same: what an utter waste of money (even when we had some).
 
#19
I am confused now... what upgrades are required that don't entail swapping out one box for another? Wasn't the Typhoon designed to be upgraded on the fly?
Yes, that was the idea. Apparently the UK doesn't have the money to do the upgrades that were planned from the begining

The upgrade system-
Eurofighter Typhoon, understanding the Tranches and Blocks | Fast Air Photography

Why do they even bother building a "Tranche 1" airframe in the first place, if it is known that planned upgrades are scheduled anyway? Why order so many T1?
Because they are relatively easy to upgrade, originally (1998 SDR) we decided we need 232 Typhoon's
Apparently we are no going to drop 2/3rds......

The RN has been savaged, the RAF is getting its arse reamed now, the Army will get the same treatmen as soon as its politically acceptable.
 

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