RAF/RLC Movers Lost my Bags - Who Can I sue?

#1
I've recently flown back from Afghasnistan. I checked in at KAF and placed my luggage in the blue ISO (destined for Brize) as instructed. On arrival at Brize, myself and at few colleagues waited to collect our baggage. After about an hour, nothing materialised. Baggage of 6 Pax was missing. We gave our details and waited for more info. 3 weeks later, I've just receive a letter from Brize stating that there is no trace of my baggage, and therefore I must make a caim off my own insurance.

As there was quite a bit of stuff in my laggage that was v important, to my unit. Nothing security related, but relevant to my job. Are the RAF/RLC Movers culpable? Now my career is in question, I must cover the cost of what is missing, (over £7K) or go through mil inquiry, which will affect my career (so I've been told), is my CO taking the easy option and hoping I'll pay up out of my own pocket and save the unit more shame? As there has been quite a few thefts recently that are under investigation. Can I claim from the RAF, as it was a mil flight? Do they have insurance for these problems?

Also another concern is that my Tom Tom SatNav was in my luggage with my home address in it. Is this a theft by a local? I know I can move but my unit are not taking this seriously, more concerned about the other missing stuff.

Question Is - Can I sue the RAF/RLC Movers for any of this? Any help appreciated.
 
#5
This was a duty trip by the sounds of things, so you should not need to claim for any of the gear, even your own personal effects. I have no idea whether or not the Warsaw Convention applies, but there is a MoD scheme which allows for you to be reimbursed for the loss or damage to your personal effects which is attributable to the service, and which will not come out of any unit budget (and I've seen it used a couple of times where OX30 got loose). You should not be held responsible for the loss of the gear which is not your own, unless you weren't supposed to be carrying it with you.

If you have no joy with anyone regarding the compensation (both times I've seen it was at my instigation, as no-one else seemed to be aware that the scheme existed), I will see if I can find the DIN (or whatever it was) where the details were.

I would imagine that Horridlittleman is a member of the RLC who should be aware of this, but has his own reasons for not giving out the correct information (or doesn't know his job).
 
#6
Are you American by any chance? Sue everyone, especially McDonalds, it was probably their fault.

You total tube.
 
#8
ximmeh1987 said:
Daytona955 said:
Are you American by any chance? Sue everyone, especially McDonalds, it was probably their fault.

You total tube.
Im sure you would just take in on the chin, wouldnt you :p
No, like all sensible soldiers I would carry my valuables in my day sack and claim insurance for the dross that was lost. Being an Englishman, I wouldn't ask left right and centre who I could sue!!!

You sound a total tube as well
 
#9
You one of those people who claim their black grip is their hand luggage at the check in desk then get mugged off? if not how big is your day sack, and can it fit "quite a bit of stuff in my laggage that was v important, to my unit." ;)
 
#10
ximmeh1987 said:
You one of those people who claim their black grip is their hand luggage at the check in desk then get mugged off? if not how big is your day sack, and can it fit "quite a bit of stuff in my laggage that was v important, to my unit." ;)
Lol don't be such a loser. If it is unit stuff you were carrying and it is lost, fill out a report, end of. YOU don't need to sue anyone (stop watching so many Yank films), it's your unit's loss not yours.

Now stop whining and get back to your Sunday roast
 
#12
Surely if it's Unit's property, you shouldn't have beent tasked with transporting it in your luggage in the first place? Use insurance to claim back your losses, and fill out a form for the unit's stuff. Maybe your CO will organise better transport arrangements next time.
 
#13
ximmeh1987 said:
We're having chinese :(
Only because of the Olympics and again, too many Yank films, otherwise it would be a good old English roast beef I hope
 
#14
Ask for the Aircraft load manifest. Whatever goes on to a kite is on that list.That may help to pinpoint where it got to or is.
PS,When I went to collect my box at Aldergrove,the was things missing. Only books tho but I was not a happy chappy!
 
#16
gericom368 said:
Question Is - Can I sue the RAF/RLC Movers for any of this? Any help appreciated.
Don't think you can sue anyone. But s it was a duty trip and all the stuff you had was required for your use whilst deployed, you should be able to seek some sort of foraml replacement.

Your Unit should assist you with this and you need to make it formal by writing a proper military Official letter to your Sub Unit Commander, copy to your Unit HQ. explain the circumstances and the steps you have taken so far. You will have to name names, list dates /timings and provide as full an inventory as you can.

If you get no help you need to get proper advice from someone in your Unit before taking any further steps.
 
#17
Joe_Private said:
I would imagine that Horridlittleman is a member of the RLC who should be aware of this, but has his own reasons for not giving out the correct information (or doesn't know his job).
I am in the RLC but why the f^ck should I know any more about claiming (or being a bell end and screaming to sue someone) than anyone else. I am not a mover so it is not part of my job!

If you lose kit it should be covered by your kit insurance. If it can be issued to you then it can be covered by kit insurance. If it is kit that is not issued to you but belongs to the unit then it should go on the a/c as unit freight.

I am not unsympathetic about the plight of someone who has lost kit but why on earth is the first reaction to sue? I would have thought that a complaint to the service police informing them of a theft would be the first port of call. That would then cover the career option unless it was equipment that belonged to the unit and should have been taken on the aircraft as hand baggage.
 
#18
If your brass is being less than helpful, it may be because they don't feel like you deserve the support :)

You're not coming across too well ATM TBH
 

Command_doh

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#19
As there has been quite a few thefts recently that are under investigation
You are referring to Unit level rather than 'generally' right? Why are your Unit not supporting you personally? BAGLO happens frequently, but suing the Movers? - that's a new one. Common sense would dictate that very valuable kit items should go in carry on, surely? And anything that is unit valuable/job related should have been packed and loaded as freight rather than baggage to avoid this occurring. The contents and unit details would be there in black and white on the paper trail, otherwise there is no proof this kit was ever in the bags - as far as the Movers are concerned.
 
#20
gericom368 said:
I've recently flown back from Afghasnistan. I checked in at KAF and placed my luggage in the blue ISO (destined for Brize) as instructed. .
Theres your problem. Baggage back to Brize goes in the White ISO, not the blue one...
 

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