RAF Regiment " arduous course" or not ?

They would then be up there with the Army chefs, medics, signallers, VMs, sapppers, stackers and even military policemen that pass P Coy.

But not Ammo Techs, they don’t have to do P Coy, but do jumps and wear wings.
 
I’m aware of the exception for operational jumps, but ATs posted to 16 AA Bde? In fact, are there any ATs posted to 16 AA Bde?

There never used to be. Support was provided from 11 Regt.
 
Banter aside, it seems like a waste of money for there to be two parallel selection courses for the same actual course. Surely it would make more sense to put the RAF Regt guys on P Coy (as the Parachute Regiment is 2 1/2 bns of requirement plus supporting units vs one squadron) and have done with it. There’d be financial savings by achieving efficiency, and the interminable squabbling over bragging rights would be put to bed, because there would be no argument that the selection had been the same.

They would then be up there with the Army chefs, medics, signallers, VMs, sapppers, stackers and even military policemen that pass P Coy.

Other than dick-waving, why wouldn’t that work?
So many potential reasons...You have to be Airborne qualified to be ALI Cell (Air Land Integration) which is RAF Regiment's JTAC/TACP. Obvs the same for 16Air Assault (613/616) or SFSG. The JFACTSU (JTAC school) is based at RAF Leeming, Reg guys have more affinity with CAGE (Complex Air Ground environment), budgets and the slot allocation is also separate for jump training and much less for 2 Squadron than Paras/16 AA and probably politics keep the courses separate. As I amended my OP to say Reg used to do P-Coy and the course had milling until late 80's with none of this yellow strikes stuff either. Basically the reason for Reg guys doing it is to open greater career development as promotion can be very slow in the Reg and TACP/JTAC airborne is a ticket to opportunities. Also..only 6 Squadrons now (150 ish in each) so better odds in one sense.
 
So many potential reasons...You have to be Airborne qualified to be ALI Cell (Air Land Integration) which is RAF Regiment's JTAC/TACP. Obvs the same for 16Air Assault (613/616) or SFSG. The JFACTSU (JTAC school) is based at RAF Leeming, Reg guys have more affinity with CAGE (Complex Air Ground environment), budgets and the slot allocation is also separate for jump training and much less for 2 Squadron than Paras/16 AA and probably politics keep the courses separate. As I amended my OP to say Reg used to do P-Coy and the course had milling until late 80's with none of this yellow strikes stuff either. Basically the reason for Reg guys doing it is to open greater career development as promotion can be very slow in the Reg and TACP/JTAC airborne is a ticket to opportunities. Also..only 6 Squadrons now (150 ish in each) so better odds in one sense.

Sorry, I wasn’t clear; I didn’t mean the entire RAF Regt, just the ones destined for parachute training, in the same way that only those soldiers destined for parachute training are loaded on P Coy.

Just seems odd that there are two routes to the same course. Actually more than two, but I’m not including SF types, as that’s significantly different.
 

G4Star

Old-Salt
Just for the record I did not attend P Coy or AACC.
As I was held back, as someone had to count the blankets & get the 1033's signed.
 
You sure?

Thought the only badge they needed was one saying "JTAC", like it's a badge for passing an arduous course or something.
Pretty sure they don’t need to be jumps qualified to be in the ALI cell. Some of the ones I’ve worked with certainly weren’t.

The JTAC badge is to show they’ve passed a specialist course. On No 2’s/woolly pully they wear a set of wings similar to the Air Despatchers badge, but with ‘JTAC’ in the centre.
 
Not sure why they need to deploy by parachute to guard the same camp they took off from.

200 metres from the NAAFI.
They've got to check no-one is hiding behind the clouds.
 

japseyewarrior

War Hero
Pretty sure they don’t need to be jumps qualified to be in the ALI cell. Some of the ones I’ve worked with certainly weren’t.

The JTAC badge is to show they’ve passed a specialist course. On No 2’s/woolly pully they wear a set of wings similar to the Air Despatchers badge, but with ‘JTAC’ in the centre.
Perhaps I was being too dry.

There is no requirement to be jumps qualified to get into the Cell.

IMO the JTAC qualification badge is a vanity project as far as I care. It's not a particularly difficult or long course.

I never understood why JTACs were so keen for recognition, be that by wearing a NF puffa on the OP or as many JTAC flashes on their kit as possible.
 

MoleBath

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But not Ammo Techs, they don’t have to do P Coy, but do jumps and wear wings.
One mistake and they will be wearing wings

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