RAF Museum makes another huge mistake!

#1
I noticed this article in the Daily Telegraph this morning. It discusses the recovery and whereabouts of a Curtis P40 Kittyhawk which was found in pretty good condition having come to ground in the Sahara. Having been found 70 years later in 2012 there was a recovery mission carried out and it subsequently disappeared.

In 2015 the RAF Museum offered up and donated one of its collection of Spitfires in exchange for the remains of this P40. The P40 aircraft has now turned up at the El Alamein museum, somewhat restored. The RAF Museum is now down one valuable Spitfire and has not achieved a transfer of ownership of the P40.

Aviation historians express anger over lost World War Two fighter plane given a 'hideous' makeover

Must be some red faces in the management of the RAF Museum.....
 
#2
I noticed this article in the Daily Telegraph this morning. It discusses the recovery and whereabouts of a Curtis P40 Kittyhawk which was found in pretty good condition having come to ground in the Sahara. Having been found 70 years later in 2012 there was a recovery mission carried out and it subsequently disappeared.

In 2015 the RAF Museum offered up and donated one of its collection of Spitfires in exchange for the remains of this P40. The P40 aircraft has now turned up at the El Alamein museum, somewhat restored. The RAF Museum is now down one valuable Spitfire and has not achieved a transfer of ownership of the P40.

Aviation historians express anger over lost World War Two fighter plane given a 'hideous' makeover

Must be some red faces in the management of the RAF Museum.....

Well to be honest, the purists might have some grounds for complaint but, from my eyes, the Egyptian restorers have done a bloody good job.
 
#3
Well to be honest, the purists might have some grounds for complaint but, from my eyes, the Egyptian restorers have done a bloody good job.
The restoration looks ok, the big problem is the loss of a major museum piece to the RAF Museum....

Further research reveals that this hit the press some years ago, for which I apologise. The Telegraph is recycling news to fill its sparse pages.
 

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It’s not a bad swap for all the looted Egyptian stuff we’ve got in the British Museum.
 
#5
.......the deal was for a company to extract the wreck from the crash site, pack it and ship to a port for export, this they did and the Spitfire was handed over, unfortunately the export paperwork wasn't finished and even though I'm sure all the appropriate bribes had been paid when the Arab Spring hit and a new bunch of corrupt officials took over export was prohibited. Crap contract work by the RAFM. They should have waited until the airframe was in the UK.

In a totally unrelated matter the head of the RAF Museum is some random civi woman who has no connection to the RAF or Armed Forces but is an 'expert' in the political side of running a museum - she's not keen on those nasty old aeroplanes though and prefers the more inclusive and multi-cultural* 'modern' style of social engineering and the touch screen entertainment approach to museums rather than actually storing and preserving artefacts for future generations.

*Which is kind of weird because if she knew anything about the RAF of WW2 she'd know that it was more multi-cultural and more of an equal-op employer than virtually anywhere else.
 

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...Further research reveals that this hit the press some years ago, for which I apologise. The Telegraph is recycling news to fill its sparse pages.
Indeed; I think this has been known about for some considerable time. It’s probably only just hit the headlines because the aircraft has only just gone on display. As an aside, the El Alamein Museum is excellent with some very interesting displays.

What are the other ‘huge mistakes’ to which you allude?

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MM
 
#11
........just to be picky.....the Beverly, not rebuilding the Halifax (as promised when they recovered the bloody thing, and don't buy into the 'we always planned to leave it as it was found' crap) Closing the BofB hall, I mean, only them most iconic battle of the RAF's existence.... The selling-off of the Mosquito TIII.......
 
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I'm waiting for it to turn up in a local antique shop
 
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That one wasn't found in the western desert 70 years after the conflict, a time capsule......

It came as a kit of parts from the Pacific and in it's return to flight probably lost a bit more of it's 'soul'

Pacific Wrecks
 
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........just to be picky.....the Beverly, not rebuilding the Halifax (as promised when they recovered the bloody thing, and don't buy into the 'we always planned to leave it as it was' found crap) Closing the BofB hall, I mean, only them most iconic battle of the RAF's existence.... The selling-off of the Mosquito TIII.......
I think the Halifax was a funding issue although I agree it’s a great shame that it never got restored; fair point on the Ben.

To my shame, I must confess that the closure of the BoB Hall had completely passed me by. Is this not part of a wider re-development which I believe is happening. If not, it would be a tragedy as it was very well laid out.

I’m sure that @Archimedes will have some gouge...

Regards,
MM
 
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In a totally unrelated matter the head of the RAF Museum is some random civi woman who has no connection to the RAF or Armed Forces but is an 'expert' in the political side of running a museum - she's not keen on those nasty old aeroplanes though and prefers the more inclusive and multi-cultural* 'modern' style of social engineering and the touch screen entertainment approach to museums rather than actually storing and preserving artefacts for future generations.

*Which is kind of weird because if she knew anything about the RAF of WW2 she'd know that it was more multi-cultural and more of an equal-op employer than virtually anywhere else.
She looks like the sort that is slowly ruining our military museums in the name of diversity, inclusivity and other such buzzwords.

From her Bio on the museum website.:
. . . . museums have a responsibility to ‘challenge people’ and offer ‘layered interpretations of our history’.

I am a bit uncomfortable with what "layered interpretations" could mean after what has been done to the IWM and the National Army Museum.
 
#17
The BofB hall has been closed, it was looking like rat-shit anyway as no money had been spent in years, and I mean for stuff like painting & decorating, the collection has been dispersed, some to the main building, some to Cosford and some into store...

If you want the full SP RAF Museum Hendon - Closure / Dispersion of Battle of Britain Hall

The museum was pushing for an "architectural triumph" back in 2010 which I think has been binned
RAF Museum unveils 'beacon' project

I don't know, has no-one mentioned to the management that the Museum is about the RAF and not their egos?
 
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Politically managed museums are really a snub at history. The Ham Radio section at the Science museum (GB2SM) was closed and stripped in 1995 as they wanted to modernise things (It's a museum FFS!) and if memory serves, up popped something about communications involving Star Trek/Star Wars or some such fictional rubbish and a poster outside the room saying the Science Museum could not be held responsible for content displayed on the screen. No doubt all the museums will follow suit over time. :cool:
 
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Politically managed museums are really a snub at history. The Ham Radio section at the Science museum (GB2SM) was closed and stripped in 1995 as they wanted to modernise things (It's a museum FFS!) and if memory serves, up popped something about communications involving Star Trek/Star Wars or some such fictional rubbish and a poster outside the room saying the Science Museum could not be held responsible for content displayed on the screen. No doubt all the museums will follow suit over time. :cool:


Get with the programme!

Not 'Museums' now, they are 'Discovery Centres'.
 

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