RAC-FR & Pathfinders

Other then the fact that PARAs jump out of planes, is there any difference between the two styles of Recce?

Err... rather a lot really.

FR Recce often, but not always, involves armoured vehicles. Sometimes it involves planes - the HCR have an Sqn assigned to 16 AA Bde. It is described well here - http://www.army.mod.uk/rac/formation_reconnaissance/index.htm

Pathfinder recce often, but not always, involves enormous bergans. Sometimes it involves planes. It is described well here -

The Pathfinder page on the army.mod.uk website said:
The Pathfinder Platoon works with the 16 Air Assault Brigade's advance force and is its organic reconnaissance force.

Advance Force operations are conducted prior to any air assault operation and involve covert reconnaissance, location and marking of Drop Zones, Tactical Landing Zones and Helicopter Landing Sites. This is to facilitate the subsequent insertion of the Brigade combat units. The intelligence provided by the Pathfinder platoon patrols is vital to the operational decision making process within the Brigade Headquarters.

All members of the platoon train for both air and vehicle insertion and can be inserted and re-supplied by all in-service parachute techniques.
When not doing AB-specific stuff the Pathfinder Platoon is used as a conventional recce platoon, although its composition means that sometimes its used for tasks where fooking double hard b.astards are necessary - as in the fierce fighting around Sangin.

If you're considering joining the Army bear in mind that you can join an FR regiment straight off, but must earn your spurs before attempting PF selection. You CAN join PF from a non-Para / Guards Para background, but most don't.

thanks for the info.

Yea im going for the life guards. The HCR have Survelliance troops that came across as doing the same sort of job. Just wondering why theres so few of the Pathfinders where as the RAC has half there regiments as CVR!

I though the Guards para were G squadron sas now? Is there a new company now then? I remeber my dad went for them in the mid 60's, got to his first jump, after that he changed his mind lol.

Having a guards para company is great, somthing to try for if im up for it.
I searched for it but came up with 650 results!

But i found a post about it last month, thanks again for the info.


Was he not talking about Guards Independant Parachute Company which got disbanded for a time before comign back as the Guards Independant Parachute Platoon, which is now a permanant part of D Coy (?) 3 Para?

And not that PF is only now a Plt and attached to 3 Para?


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RWG1 said:
I though the Guards para were G squadron sas now? Is there a new company now then? I remeber my dad went for them in the mid 60's, got to his first jump, after that he changed his mind lol.
The unit your dad tried for was the Guards Independent Parachute Company which, like the Gurkha Independent Parachute Company, was a creature of the 1960's. Both were a direct result of Britain's war against Indonesia in the jungles of Borneo where the SAS were stretched so thinly that it was deemed necessary to train more troops to carry out Special Forces type duties.

Following the Indonesian Confrontation, the Guards' Company became G Sqn, 22 SAS, whilst the Gurkha Coy was disbanded in 1971 (a Gurkha Reinforcement Company was raised to supplement 2 Para from 1996-2002). The Guards have reprised a Airborne role in the form of a platoon in 3 Para in 2001(ish).
Guards Independent Parachute comapny was not a creature of the 1960s...it was a vestige of the Guards involvement in parachute forces in WW2 (oops JSP101 solecism there!)...and succeeded the GPIBn...until 1975!

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