Quick gong question

#1
Tried the medals office, and around work. Need a definate answer sharpish before my no.2's go to the tailors.
Balkans medals. Qualified for EUFOR medal from Bosnia, and then was sent down to Kos for rest of tour. Also qualified for Non Article 5 NATO medal. This was 2006. Nobody knows which, if not both, medals can be worn. Some say i can choose one, some say both, some say not non article 5 chocolate bar. Anybody who actually knows, rather than speculating, please get back to me!
 
#4
spaz said:
drain_sniffer said:
You cannot wear the non-article 5 medal
You can if you do not have either a NATO Former Yugoslavia or a Kosovo medal.
are you sure??
I thought non-article 5 was a no no, especially as you are also given it for Afghan which obviously has nowt to do with FRY
 
#5
drain_sniffer said:
spaz said:
drain_sniffer said:
You cannot wear the non-article 5 medal
You can if you do not have either a NATO Former Yugoslavia or a Kosovo medal.
are you sure??
I thought non-article 5 was a no no, especially as you are also given it for Afghan which obviously has nowt to do with FRY
You can't wear the Afghan one but if you got it in the Balkans and don't already have one from that theatre then you can wear it.
 
#6
drain_sniffer said:
spaz said:
drain_sniffer said:
You cannot wear the non-article 5 medal
You can if you do not have either a NATO Former Yugoslavia or a Kosovo medal.
are you sure??
I thought non-article 5 was a no no, especially as you are also given it for Afghan which obviously has nowt to do with FRY
The Non Article 5 medal cannot be worn if you have the Former Yugoslav medal. You can wear it with the EUFOR medal. The ISAF medal from the Stan has nothing to do with the Balkans. Different ribbon. There is a DCI out on the wearing of the Balkans medals.
 
#9
spaz said:
What is the EUFOR medal? Sounds a bit gay.
It is, came in on 04 Dec 04, when NATO handed over control of the balkans to the European Union. It is the worst medal i have ever been given. It comes with the Athea clasp.
 
#11
spaz said:
Wittman said:
The Non Article 5 medal cannot be worn if you have the Former Yugoslav medal.
Or Kosovo.
Not sure on the kosovo medal because at the time in 2004 it was only Bosnia which came under control of the EU and i think Kosovo stayed under NATO control.

You are right it is chippy.
 
#12
KeepCalmCarryOn said:
Tried the medals office, and around work. Need a definate answer sharpish before my no.2's go to the tailors.
Balkans medals. Qualified for EUFOR medal from Bosnia, and then was sent down to Kos for rest of tour. Also qualified for Non Article 5 NATO medal. This was 2006. Nobody knows which, if not both, medals can be worn. Some say i can choose one, some say both, some say not non article 5 chocolate bar. Anybody who actually knows, rather than speculating, please get back to me!
KCCO - not at work at the momement, i think you can wear both, JSP 761 Chap 12 (one of the annexes) gives the medals approved for wear and their dates. Should be available on DII or Armynet. Your SSA might even have a copy!! Latest edition is May 08 ish, think it supercedes the old DCI's
 
#15
c. NATO Medal with ribbon/clasp for:

(1) Former Republic of Yugoslavia*: 01 Jul 92 to 31 Dec 02.
(2) Kosovo*: 13 Oct 98 to 31 Dec 02.
(3) Macedonia: 01 Jun 01 to 31 Dec 02.
d. NATO Non-Article 5 Medal:

(1) Balkans (Non-Article 5): 01 Jan 03 to date to be decided.
(Note: Macedonia [FYROM] elements ceased on 31 Mar 03. The Bosnia Herzegovina elements ceased on 01 Dec 04).
g. The European Security and Defence Policy Service Medal for Operation ALTHEA (Bosnia and Herzegovina): 02 Dec 04 to date to be decided.
From JSP 761 can't see any reference to not being allowed to wear non article 5 although I'm sure I read it somewhere.
 
#16
spaz said:
c. NATO Medal with ribbon/clasp for:

(1) Former Republic of Yugoslavia*: 01 Jul 92 to 31 Dec 02.
(2) Kosovo*: 13 Oct 98 to 31 Dec 02.
(3) Macedonia: 01 Jun 01 to 31 Dec 02.
d. NATO Non-Article 5 Medal:

(1) Balkans (Non-Article 5): 01 Jan 03 to date to be decided.
(Note: Macedonia [FYROM] elements ceased on 31 Mar 03. The Bosnia Herzegovina elements ceased on 01 Dec 04).
g. The European Security and Defence Policy Service Medal for Operation ALTHEA (Bosnia and Herzegovina): 02 Dec 04 to date to be decided.
From JSP 761 can't see any reference to not being allowed to wear non article 5 although I'm sure I read it somewhere.
You wont find it in the JSP you need to read DCI JS 125/03 it is documented in there.
 
#18
Wittman said:
You wont find it in the JSP you need to read DCI JS 125/03 it is documented in there.
You're right you know :D .

The NATO Non Article 5 Medal may only be worn by personnel deploying to the Balkans for the first time and therefore receiving their first NATO Medal. If personnel already hold any of the NATO 'Former Yugoslavia', 'Kosovo' or FYR Macedonia' Medals, then they may only accept, but not wear, the Non Article 5 Medal.
 
#20
Wittman said:
spaz said:
c. NATO Medal with ribbon/clasp for:

(1) Former Republic of Yugoslavia*: 01 Jul 92 to 31 Dec 02.
(2) Kosovo*: 13 Oct 98 to 31 Dec 02.
(3) Macedonia: 01 Jun 01 to 31 Dec 02.
d. NATO Non-Article 5 Medal:

(1) Balkans (Non-Article 5): 01 Jan 03 to date to be decided.
(Note: Macedonia [FYROM] elements ceased on 31 Mar 03. The Bosnia Herzegovina elements ceased on 01 Dec 04).
g. The European Security and Defence Policy Service Medal for Operation ALTHEA (Bosnia and Herzegovina): 02 Dec 04 to date to be decided.
From JSP 761 can't see any reference to not being allowed to wear non article 5 although I'm sure I read it somewhere.
You wont find it in the JSP you need to read DCI JS 125/03 it is documented in there.
Tks Wittman - Will have to dig thst DCI out when i go back to work, only dealt with first time deployments :D
 
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