Question for Amputees

Discussion in 'Infantry' started by Meurphi, Jul 29, 2010.

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  1. Guys

    My Dad is an above the knee amputee and likes to try and stay in shape.

    However he's reluctant to go to a gym because he's feels a bit self-concious- especially around the usual crowd of mirror hugging posers you get and doesnt think that the facilities are that compatible to his needs anyway.

    I wanted to know if anyone else out there felt the same way?

    Are there any 'amputee friendly' gyms around East Anglia maybe with some specialist apparatus?
     
  2. Gremlin

    Gremlin LE Good Egg (charities)

    If he is ex forces, you could try contacting Blesma for advice:

    BLESMA

    They may be happy to make some suggestions even if he isn't.
     
  3. Good advice.

    I've contacted BLESMA

    He's not ex-forces but I've been in the TA for a number of years.

    I would however be interested to know if any other guys feel the same way - and whether they think there are sufficient facilities / apparatus to train remaining muscle mass in vestigual limb?
     
  4. Meurphi, I think that you are approaching this scenario from a too sensitive notion. However, most respectively you know the situation better than I do.

    Gyms are most social locations and reflect taste, status more often if you live in inner London. You've already spotted as you describe " the mirror hugging posers" which exist but aren't in the majority. Keep in mind, it's your dad who wants to train not you. I'd surmise as a result of his situation, he's more acclimatised to his abilities than I suspect you are.

    There's nothing amiss with local area council gyms. Allowing for the 'craic' as well as the 'crack' there's an abundance of good souls who utilise the facilities 'cos they want to train cheaply. Despite their lack of 'olygies' and 'isms' some of the clientele will be skilled in good techniques and your, dad gifted in life's experiences, will soon spot them.

    BLESMA are uniquely skilled in devising training programmes. Get the options, but allow your dad to freebase and experiment with options until he works out for himself what he wants and what suits. Be prepared for clothing idiosyncrasies.

    As for you, find a gym, do your recce. Visit it a few times on your own, asking yourself the usual questions. Whizz him in there, you already familiarised with the reception, walk to the changing zone, pointing out loos and shower area, into training area, then fcuk off telling him you'll collect him in ? hour. Select an evening when there's a bit of a crowd there. Obviously, he's not going to train too seriously, he'll look about, absorb the detail, decide.

    Listen to his comments. It's him not you mate. Move and decide as required.
    Christmas prezzies may well be beenie hats and tattoo catalogues, but hey, let it rock and roll............... All the very best to you.
     
  5. Thanks Alec - some good points well brought out.

    However I think what has happened here is that this situation with my Dad has been the catalyst for a cascading set of ideas.

    If guys who've been injured while on Ops were uncomfortable in 'normal' gyms, would like to train/socialise with other injured ex-servicemen at a 'green gym' using specialy designed apparatus constructed along a military style 'trim trail' while being beasted by qualified Personal Trainer/PTI (RMR)

    ..... then I can make that happen!

    I have at my disposal a charitable business structure (CIC) a small farm with woodland area, an office with disabled facilities, parking, a kitchen, tools & materials etc. I have engineering / design / construction skills and experience in successfully delivering inovative projects in the not-for-profit sector.

    Thing is I'm reluctant to go for the 'build it and they will come' approach - hence asking my original question, I wanted to get some feedback on whether this was actually wanted / needed.

    Ideally I'd like to encourages guys to get involved in all aspects of the project including having input in the design and construction stage. There would be plenty of opportunity to learn new skills - from office based activities to practicle skills. The completed facility could then be made be made available to other user groups (I already work with disabled kids, special needs & young offenders) - those guys involved could become instructors, mentors, teachers.

    There is more - but I'm sure you get the gist of it

    Just need to know if there are any injured ex-servicemen out there who agrees that this is worth pursuing and is up for a new challenge?
     
  6. Gremlin

    Gremlin LE Good Egg (charities)

    OK. I hadn't read your previous threads before, but now I can see where you are coming from.

    What in God's name made you think that it was acceptable to post a request for help from amputees, and then manipulate that into a request to help with your business plan?

    If you are not having any luck with Blesma, there will be a reason for it. They are market leaders in this field.

    Part of the phraseology on your website speaks volumes: 'BRITISH EX-SERVICEMAN[sic]—AN UNTAPPED RESOURCE!'
     
  7. ?
    Cant quite see how me trying to do something constructive for injured ex-servicemen has been construed as being wrong.

    If I have caused any offense then I'm truly sorry.

    Everything I have posted is completely true - my father is an amputee, he doesnt like using public gyms - he'd rather improvise training apparatus at home to help maintain muscle tone and control his weight.

    It occured to me that ex-servicemen may feel the same way and that I could do something that not only help in thier rehabilitation but also create job opportunities for these guys. - if thats what was wanted (hence the question)

    My fathers issues has been the inspiration for the project - I just wanted to know if other guys felt the same way

    As for being an 'Un-Tapped Resource' - I believe thats what they are! You have quoted a title from a piece of material aimed at potential employers. The purpose of which was to highlight the fact that even disabled servicemen have a lot of skills and experience that they can bring to the workplace. Potential jobs I can assist with include teaching posts with challenging kids, mentors, physical training instructors.

    Am I also wrong in saying this?

    I agree BLESMA does a fantastic job and I'm in no way comparing or competing - I'm just trying to 'do my bit'

    In addition I have since secured an agreement (in principle) from a major Gap Year Expedition Organisation to employ disabled ex-servicemen on overseas projects as Expedition Leaders, Dive Instructors, Ski Instructors and even Medics.

    I've not received a penny for any of this and my only motivation is to help guys back into shape & make the transition into civvie life and find a job that doesnt involve sitting behind a desk

    Please tell me why you think that is not 'acceptable'