Queen to pay WWI memorial visit

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  1. BBC News Report

    Tyne Cot Cemetery the largest British Military cemetery in the world is truly a moving place. It is only by a personal visit can the true scale of the loss be gaged.

    I am sure her Her Maj and Phil will be truly moved.

    As the First World War has almost passed now from living memory we have a duty to remember the suffering and the loss endured by the boys in Flanders Fields.
  2. I have travelled the whole Western Front from Ypres to Verdun, Tyne Cot cemetery is a well maintained, well cared for cemetery. The scale of the losses is staggering, near the top of the cemetery are a number of random burials, these are the original burials from the Casualty Clearing Station located in this area during the battle in 1917.
    It is a moving place geezer I agree.
  3. oldbaldy

    oldbaldy LE Moderator Good Egg (charities)
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  4. oldbaldy

    oldbaldy LE Moderator Good Egg (charities)
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    I too have been to Tyne Cot. What immediately grabs you is the size of, not only the place but also the size of the wall at the rear for those with no known grave.
  5. No offence but that is a bit like saying St Paul's Cathedral is a nice little church. Tyne Cot is one of the most incredible commemmorations of the Great War, amidst a plethora of incredible commemmorations in Flanders, Picardy and indeed world-wide. To describe it as moving is to beggar the description by language.

    I spent half an hour trying to explain Tyne Cot to TFB. A minute out of the car and she had "totally got it". Terrible beauty is probably one description. The way the cemetary is melded into the battlefield landscape is what gets me.
  6. Try Verdun for moving Cuddles. The scale of the Verdun battlefield is incredible the cemetery just goes on for ever and the Ossary is beyond belief with all those bones. German and French all mixed up, no one knew who was who.
    As you say Tyne Cot is incredible, moving etc but there are many other moving, incredible cemeteries all along the Western Front and indeed World Wide.
    The most moving for me is where my great Uncle is buried near Arras, 18years old died in his first attack.
  7. Glad to see that Radio 4 ran a piece this morning about HM attending rather than concentrating on the non-story of the feckless colonial type photographer.

    Also happy to see that they have featured interviews over the last couple of days with Mr Patch and the two other surviving WW1 veterans. These men are simply inspiring.

    Incidentally, do schools still regularly have history trips out to the WW1 battlefields? They certainly used to when I was a spotty teenager in the 80's: even the worst Embra neds used to come back a bit subdued and less gob-shitey after they had visited.
  8. quote="Civvy_Shot"]
    Incidentally, do schools still regularly have history trips out to the WW1 battlefields? They certainly used to when I was a spotty teenager in the 80's: even the worst Embra neds used to come back a bit subdued and less gob-shitey after they had visited.[/quote]

    Yes they do.

    The Royal British Legion has been running school tours for the last ten years under "Travel and Learn". This Summer we are relaunching our schools programme as "Poppy Travel" and will be promoting it more widely in September.

    On Thursday and Friday we had school children travelling around the Ypres and Somme battlefields as part of their education. Poppy_Travel dropped in on them on Friday lunchtime at the excellent Passchendaele Musuem at the Zonnebeke Chateau. Besides the curriculum, children learn about their local and family connections to the past. One of the children was a descendent of the Butterfield family. His great great uncle was the athelete who held national records and competed in the 1908 games - with the Chevasse Brothers. He was KIA in September 1917 - and the tour gave the boy an opportunity to visit the grave and lay a wreath. A second child had a great great uncle who was CSM of the 12th Green Howards and responsibility for turning half of Middlesborough FC into soldiers. There is an aha moment when children notice that history is something that happens to all of us and not just in text books

    Today Poppy_Travel will be attending a film night at Henry Compton School in Fulham including a film the children made about their trip to the Western Front Battlefields earlier this year. This boys school for 11-16 year olds is an inner city school with a very diverse student base including many refugees and asylem seekers. They had a special study of Walter Tull, the first black British outfield footballer, who crossed barriers of class and race to be commissioned into the Middlesex Regiment. Children seem to gain a sense of identity from knowing that people like themselves played a part in our history. It doesn't matter whether they are Tees-siders at the Yorkshire Cemetery in Fricourt; Edinburgh NEDS following the story of the wartime Hearts team or Bangladeshi girls finding their dad's name on Menin Gate.

    We can go almost anywhere, but most tours go to the West Front, Normandy, Italy, Holland, Berlin or Auschwitz. Our guides are mostly the same chaps that take the ATR recruits around the battlefields and can expain what its like to be a soldier. We work with dducational specialists to ensure that we address the national curriculum. Most travellers are Secondary Schools, but we are planning a pilot scheme for UK based one day Remebrance days for primary schools.

    If you know of schools that you think would benefit from a Remembrance oriented battlefield tour, please contact us.
  9. Poppy Travel sounds like a fantastic idea. Many kids these days will have lost family members and never known it, could the teachers give them a session on the CWGC website before going? Good luck with it.
  10. I went on a battlefield trip when in 5th year in '98. One of our stops was ofcourse Tyne Cot. I went to a small school we had one coach only half full of kids, we had been at the cemitary for about 45mins walking around a contemplating life ect, when two, full, coaches turned up and the kids started running around and climbing on the central cross (bellow). All of us were digusted, from the 11-12 year olds up to my year mates at 16, my history teacher was a real old fasioned type, we had to stand when he entered the room and would scream at us for the smallest infringment of the rules, he was speachless he didn't know what to do.

    I would love to go back to that time now and kick the lot of then out of the place starting with there teacher.