Queen to be invited to Dublin 2016 Commemorations

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The National Day of Cemmoration remembers all Irish people who have died in war (all uniforms) and always has.

The RBL refuse to recognise it and hold their own cemmoration the day before.


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Wasn't there just the one and a memorial in TCD

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The National Day of Cemmoration remembers all Irish people who have died in war (all uniforms) and always has.

The RBL refuse to recognise it and hold their own cemmoration the day before.


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Really?

That's rather petty, I had a great grand father, who was on leave from the Dublin Fusiliers, shooting at his brother, who was in the Post Office.

They both ended up as grumpy old buggers.The former IRB bloke had previously served in the Connaught Rangers but was invalided out early in the war.




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It would be nice if Her Majesty unveiled a memorial to the "British" casualties of the 1916 Rising at the same time. Don't see it happening though. A recent suggestion that the Auxiliaries killed at Kilmichael be commemorted on the site has proved controversial.
That's probably because of what Tom Barry said about the false surrender.

http://youtu.be/x998_xo7e9s


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It`ll piss off the provos and the prods in one go.......result.
LOL...your comment reminds me of two 'Fusiliers' I got a train out of Glasgow with in the 90s, one a Rangers man...the other a Hoops man. They 'forced' me to dismount the train at Crewe, contra my plans, to drink whiskey with them, knowing full well that I didn't drink, but holding to the mantra that you can't trust a man who won't have a drink with you.

I have this mental image of them toasting HM while both saying exactly your post contents.
 

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Well if I'm not wrong all Eire citizens can claim subject status? Recall being told that they are the only people that can get passports with 'British Subject' as opposed to the 'British Citizen' we all have.
Not entirely sure you are correct there. As far as I am aware, if your parents were born in the Irish Free State i.e. before the declaration of the Republic in 1948, they were considered Commonwealth subjects therefore their immediate descendants (children) are eligible to apply for a British passport. I don't know anyone with dual citizenship and I've always kept my Irish passport.
 

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I have dual citizenship. Both parents (and all grandparents) born in Ireland pre-1948, I was born here. None of my forebears made a Declaration of Alienation to the Irish State and hence I am entitled to citizenship of both the UK and the ROI.
 
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Well if I'm not wrong all Eire citizens can claim subject status? Recall being told that they are the only people that can get passports with 'British Subject' as opposed to the 'British Citizen' we all have.
If they are a citizen of RoI and they were born before 1 Jan 1949 they can claim British citizenship.

Why?
Because Ireland officially ceased to be a member of the Commonwealth on that date.


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Not entirely sure you are correct there. As far as I am aware, if your parents were born in the Irish Free State i.e. before the declaration of the Republic in 1948, they were considered Commonwealth subjects therefore their immediate descendants (children) are eligible to apply for a British passport. I don't know anyone with dual citizenship and I've always kept my Irish passport.
Me. Triple actually, Irish, listed first out of respect for your superb posts and because you and my Father were both born in Connacht, British and Russian. I could also obtain Ukranian due to my Mother being born in what was Imperial Russia and is today Ukraine.
 

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If they are a citizen of RoI and they were born before 1 Jan 1949 they can claim British citizenship.

Why?
Because Ireland officially ceased to be a member of the Commonwealth on that date.


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I was actually told by a passport office official sometime ago when I requested the status on my passport be changed to 'British Subject' giving the rationale 'If it's God, Queen, and country...then as far as I'm concerned the country can **** off' (I had my reasons). I was told unfortunately you're a citizen and the ONLY people that can claim subject status...for PRECISELY the reason you state, that Ireland ceased to be politically part of the union on that date...are RoI citizens. The Queen is theoretically, still the Queen of Ireland, especially if an Irishman/woman accepts her as such and claims a passport it is given with SUBJECT status.
 
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I was actually told by a passport office official sometime ago when I requested the status on my passport be changed to 'British Subject' giving the rationale 'If it's God, Queen, and country...then as far as I'm concerned the country can **** off' (I had my reasons). I was told unfortunately you're a citizen and the ONLY people that can claim subject status...for PRECISELY the reason you state, that Ireland ceased to be politically part of the union on that date...are RoI citizens. The Queen is theoretically, still the Queen of Ireland, especially if an Irishman/woman accepts her as such and claims a passport it is given with SUBJECT status.
Sounds Irish to me.


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I was actually told by a passport office official sometime ago when I requested the status on my passport be changed to 'British Subject' giving the rationale 'If it's God, Queen, and country...then as far as I'm concerned the country can **** off' (I had my reasons). I was told unfortunately you're a citizen and the ONLY people that can claim subject status...for PRECISELY the reason you state, that Ireland ceased to be politically part of the union on that date...are RoI citizens. The Queen is theoretically, still the Queen of Ireland, especially if an Irishman/woman accepts her as such and claims a passport it is given with SUBJECT status.
"... still the Queen of Ireland..."
Don't know where you got that from. It's fairly clear on the front of a British passport what she is Queen of.
 

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"... still the Queen of Ireland..."
Don't know where you got that from. It's fairly clear on the front of a British passport what she is Queen of.

Take a close look at the coat of arms...there's a clue...but I won't harp on about it.
 
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I have the hat trick as well. RoI,UK and US. Was wondering about the whole 'foreign prince or potentate,state or sovereignty' thing with the Yanks when the time came to trade in the green card. Given how precious they can be about such things I was expecting a Rottweiler from Immigration to feed my old passport into a shredder. Turns out they couldn't give a toss.
 

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