QAs in CSMRs

#1
what do nurses do in csmr's?

I know about the deployments but not while back in Blighty.

Is it like being a CMT?

Which - if any - is the best med regt?
 
#2
get treated like CMTs.
 
#4
Lay of officer! Shouldn't you be at Heathrow!!

If they get treated like CMT's at least they'll have some fun, not wipe arses, play sport, do courses, go adventure training and get put forward for bravery awards! Strikes me as a good deal.

Lets compare-
ODP
Pass the knife over ODP. Now wipe the floor and clean up.
Become a decision maker not a second rate support player. What was it you wanted again surgeon? im awaiting my next order although being a SNCO.

CMT
F*ck me he's been shot I better go over and save his life........... Well done Pte CMT good work under real pressure.
 
#6
smithy749 said:
CMT
F*ck me he's been shot I better go over and save his life........... Well done Pte CMT good work under real pressure.
once in how many years?
Other trades are involved in saving lives throughout their normal working day, do they bang on about it? no, 1 female CMT does her job and all of a sudden 'its what we do all the time' and those old and bold that moaned that the trade should never have allowed wimmin in are suddenly acting like it was their idea to get them in and they are the best thing since sliced bread.

Pretty pathetic really.
 
#7
once in how many years?
Other trades are involved in saving lives throughout their normal working day, do they bang on about it? no, 1 female CMT does her job and all of a sudden 'its what we do all the time' and those old and bold that moaned that the trade should never have allowed wimmin in are suddenly acting like it was their idea to get them in and they are the best thing since sliced bread.

Pretty pathetic really.
You are right other trades are saving lives every day as routine. That is there trade and what they are paid for. I think the crux of the recent story is the Hazard associated with the CMT’s work i.e. enemy/insurgent activity. The only hazards associated with the role of the ODP is a hung-over surgeon or a pre menstrual theatre nurse. The only other pain they suffer is missing lunch!!
As for women being CMT’s I think it goes to show taking there physical strength limitations to one side the role is about being cool under pressure and applying your training in all circumstances. This has clearly been demonstrated by this private soldier amongst others. Do ODP’s have them(private soldiers) That’s privates and/or soldiers or is it leadership reward by qualification gained rather than demonstrated management

So all in all not really pathetic.
In answer to your in how many years:
Have a look at the bravery awards from the honours list last year and you will see Lcpl Newburn (Female)CMT. Disapointing for you we know sadly factual.
We only deal in fact. Anyway havent you got a floor to scrub! Nurse nurse theres dirt on the wall.
 

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#8
Filbert Fox said:
smithy749 said:
CMT
F*ck me he's been shot I better go over and save his life........... Well done Pte CMT good work under real pressure.
once in how many years?
Other trades are involved in saving lives throughout their normal working day, do they bang on about it? no, 1 female CMT does her job and all of a sudden 'its what we do all the time' and those old and bold that moaned that the trade should never have allowed wimmin in are suddenly acting like it was their idea to get them in and they are the best thing since sliced bread.

Pretty pathetic really.
Play nice, Foxy!!
 
#10
smithy749 said:
Do ODP’s have them(private soldiers) That’s privates and/or soldiers or is it leadership reward by qualification gained rather than demonstrated management
of course we have pte soldiers, its a total load of bollox put about by 'hard done by' CMTs that ODPs get promoted on qualification, they need 3 CRs (2 from ODP trg and 1 as qualified) with a recommendation on the latest to get to board. Surely a man of your history knows how promotion boards are conducted at MCM Div!

smithy749 said:
We only deal in fact.
Obviously not going off your last post
smithy749 said:
Anyway havent you got a floor to scrub! Nurse nurse theres dirt on the wall.
When was the last time an ODP scrubbed a floor? in the NHS? no, they have house keepers for that. On deployment, removing the blood and other bodily fluids belonging to someone whose life they have just saved? yes, dont want cross infection, not with another casualty coming in who needs life, limb or sight saving surgery.

Stick to painting boxes, putting up tents, moaning about techs and talking about how your CMT class 1 is the equivelant to 4 stars at McDonalds.

Apart from that, I hope all is well.
 
#11
Im not sure the class one equates to 4 stars. They take time, effort and commitmentto get which is more than the CMT qual. See Johnny no stars below !


TESTICULATING. Waving your arms around and talking Bollocks.

BLAMESTORMING. Sitting around in a group, discussing why a deadline was missed or a project failed, and who was responsible.

SEAGULL MANAGER. A manager who flies in, makes a lot of noise, craps on everything, and then leaves.

ASSMOSIS. The process by which people seem to absorb success and advancement by sucking up to the boss rather than working hard.

SALMON DAY. The experience of spending an entire day swimming upstream only to get screwed and die.

CUBE FARM. An office filled with cubicles.

PRAIRIE DOGGING. When someone yells or drops something loudly in a cube farm, and people's heads pop up over the walls to see that's going on. (This also applies to applause for a promotion because there may be cake.)

SITCOMs. Single Income, Two Children, Oppressive Mortgage. What yuppies turn into when they have children and one of them stops working to stay home with the kids or start a "home business".

SINBAD. single working girls Single income, no boyfriend and desperate.

STRESS PUPPY. A person who seems to thrive on being stressed out and whiny.

PERCUSSIVE MAINTENANCE. The fine art of whacking the crap out of an electronic device to get it to work again.

ADMINISPHERE. The rarefied organisational layers beginning just above the rank and file. Decisions that fall from the "adminisphere" are often profoundly inappropriate or irrelevant to the problems they were designed to solve. This is often affiliated with the dreaded "administrivia" - needless paperwork and processes.

404. Someone who's clueless. From the World Wide Web error message "404 Not Found," meaning that the requested document could not be located.

OHNOSECOND. That minuscule fraction of time in which you realize that you've just made a BIG mistake (e.g. you've hit 'reply all')

GOING FOR A McSHIT. Entering a fast food restaurant with no intention of buying food, you're just going to the bog. If challenged by a pimply staff member, your declaration to them that you'll buy their food afterwards is known as a McShit with Lies

AEROPLANE BLONDE. One who has bleached/dyed her hair but still has a 'black box'.

BEER COAT. The invisible but warm coat worn when walking home after a booze cruise at 3am.

BEER COMPASS. The invisible device that ensures your safe arrival home after booze cruise, even though you're too drunk to remember where you live, how you got here, and where you've come from.

BREAKING THE SEAL. Your first pee in the pub, usually after 2 hours of drinking. After breaking the seal of your bladder, repeat visits to the toilet will be required every 10 or 15 minutes for the rest of the night.

JOHNNY-NO-STARS. A young man of substandard intelligence, the typical adolescent who works in a burger restaurant. The 'no-stars' comes from the badges displaying stars that staff at fast-food restaurants often wear to show their level of training.

MILLENNIUM DOMES. The contents of a Wonderbra, i.e. extremely impressive when viewed from the outside, but there's actually naught in there worth seeing.

MONKEY BATH. A bath so hot, that when lowering yourself in, you go:
"Oo!Oo!Oo! Aa!Aa!Aa!".

MYSTERY BUS. The bus that arrives at the pub on Friday night while you're in the toilet after your 10th pint, and whisks away all the unattractive people so the pub is suddenly packed with stunners when you come back in.

MYSTERY TAXI. The taxi that arrives at your place on Saturday morning before you wake up, whisks away the stunner you slept with, and leaves a 10-Pinter in your bed instead.

PEARLHARBOUR. Cold (weather). An example of it would be - "It's a bit Pearl Harbour" out there (there's a nasty nip in the air)

PICASSO BUM. A woman whose knickers are too small for her, so she looks like she's got four buttocks

SWAMP-DONKEY A deeply unattractive woman

TART FUEL. Bottled premixed spirits, regularly consumed by young women
 
#12
I havent seen a decent answer to the question, what do nurses do in csmr's???????????? becasue no one on my unit seems to know. does anyone know?
 
#13
Absolutely F**k all!!! And thats from experience!!!

Yes we do what the CMT's do and that doesn't mount to much! They are as bored as we are!

We have to fight to get any clinical time and if you suggest using the clinical experience you have to teach, you get it thrown back into your face!......

Not that i am bitter........

Sorry if its not what you were expecting!
 
#14
Thanks, the bitch, for that happy reflection on nursing practice in the green army. what about these supposed 'clinical squadron they are creating. I have heard on one with a nurse OC, or is that bit of info pants. I think that th strings question to be changed to what are nurses suppoed to do in csmr's, what are the supposed benefits to the army and to the nurse.
 
#15
Thanks, the bitch, for that happy reflection on nursing practice in the green army. what about these supposed 'clinical squadron they are creating. I have heard on one with a nurse OC, or is that bit of info pants. I think that the strings question to be changed to what are nurses suppoed to do in csmr's, what are the supposed benefits to the army and to the nurse.
 
#16
I know the one that you are on about and the OC nurse hasn't been there for a long time, although is the sort of person to get things done. So hopefully there will be some support for the QA's there.

Else where i am not sure what happening but i know that one place has stopped the 'nursing/clinical Squadron' and has intergrated the nurse into the sections. This it seems is not working as clinical time/placements are a last priority.

I think that the nurse can get an 'idea' of the green army from going to CSMR's, something that is lacked in the MDHU's, but it undoubtedly skill fades the nurse.
 
#17
I am due a posting within the next 8 or 9 months. I have been told that it will probably be a field unit (even though I am interested in a specialty I have been told to wait and do some green time first) I am going to pre empt them and put in posting preference. So any decent field units around and any good jolies comming up? tours etc? the south of england would be good.

Wee man

:wink:
 
#18
wouldn't bother wee-man, they'll just send you where ever the fook they want to anyway.

My advice would be to go to 16 CSMR, get in one of the sections (I know you've done section work before) and concentrate on Pre-hospital care - it will do wonders for the 'speciality' you're interested in. Do black serpeant as well - use your time at the field unit to build up your portfolio of clinical courses (you may even get to play when you go on tour) before applying for the big one
 
#19
gooseman said:
wouldn't bother wee-man, they'll just send you where ever the fook they want to anyway.

My advice would be to go to 16 CSMR, get in one of the sections (I know you've done section work before) and concentrate on Pre-hospital care - it will do wonders for the 'speciality' you're interested in. Do black serpeant as well - use your time at the field unit to build up your portfolio of clinical courses (you may even get to play when you go on tour) before applying for the big one
i think its the better one out of the others but don't expect much clinical time
 
#20
1. clinical time - your OC or Trg Offr should look after you regarding clinical time. If in doubt, scout around for your own clinical placements and present your findings to OC,Trg Offr.

That would look good on your CR - as in using own initiative.
If your sqn is going on tour, then their is no need - as youll be getting six months of experience!!

2. As Gooseman says - get the courses in! Harrass your trg wing.
DMETA cses, mil courses etc

3. Nurses in sqns - difficult, but it all depends on the individual. My three were all different. Most get dumped in the trg wg because the sqn think thats were they belong. WRONG!

roll your sleeves up, get your hands dirty and enjoy it! otherwise it will be a long three years.

remember - and I quote DANS on this one, You're a soldier first!

if you decide to play the 'im a qualified professional' card, it will be a quiet and long three years

Your also an NCO - dont be scared to use your stripes, or you'll get trodden on - be on the lookout for whistling tent poles 8O


you will only get out, what you put in
 

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