The car companies are having a laugh and using the credit crunch as an excuse. A year ago you could PX a year old BFG'd car of the make and model I have, get a new one plus 2k. It's now 2k plus your car for a new one. Thing is, all the dealers and BFG type companies I have spoke too say their new and used car business is still doing well. The 2nd hand cars are selling for the same price as last year (same make and model with 6k more miles is selling for more the the cost of new tax free and forces saving on mine) and the new cars are also the same price so a change of 4k in the dealers favour seems a bit synical to me. I know they are running a business but on their own admition it's ore or less business as usual. Fcuking cnuts! Any one else having the same experience or can you recommend someone who will do a better deal? It might be too late for me, but no doubt there are others who will be changing some time soon.