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#1
It has been claimed by some swivel-eyed type in Iraq that there are 15 British 'prisoners of war' being held by the bad guys there. This appeared in the Washington Post, apparently, in its Wednesday, November 17th editions which I can't access. is there any collateral to this report?
 
#3
Saw this at lunchtime: (Not Confirmed or even true!)

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According to a report issued by the Advisory Council of Fallujah Mujahideen, there are currently 136 Americans, 15 Brits and 123 Allawi Army prisoners of war.
http://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_internal.php?article=100587&list=/home.php

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US “Has Opened The Gates Of Hell”; American POW’s To Be Executed
Nov 18, 2004
By Muhammad Abu Nasr, Free Arab Voice and Omar Al-Faris, JUS

The American Washington Post newspaper in its Wednesday, November 17th 2004 issue carried remarks of Shaykh ‘Abdallah al-Janabi, the Chairman of the Consultative Council of the Mujahideen of Fallujah, an 18-member council of religious leaders, tribal chiefs and Baath Party members.

Speaking in an undamaged house in the an-Nazal neighborhood of Fallujah on Monday, al-Janabi was flanked by several bodyguards and wore an explosive vest, with wires that would detonate it dangling a few inches apart. A bodyguard said the religious leader preferred martyrdom to “dying on his bed like a camel,” according to the American newspaper’s report.

The Washington Post quoted al-Janabi as saying: “The Americans have opened the gates of hell, the Battle of Fallujah is the beginning of other battles.” He noted that, “We still have our strength, our force and ammunition, and the battle is long, very long. And we will turn Iraq into one big Fallujah.”

“It is only the beginning, from a military point of view,” said al-Janabi. “We have succeeded in drawing them into the quagmire of Fallujah, into the alleys and small pathways. They have fallen into the trap of explosive charges, land mines and, now, the defenders’ short supply lines inside the neighborhoods.”

“The cause will not die if the individuals die,” al-Janabi said. “It will survive until the last Iraqi holy warrior dies or runs out of bullets.” He added, “If the military leaders agree on another area where we will inflict more losses on them, then we will.”

Al-Janabi mocked the statement of Qasim Dawud, a senior Iraqi puppet official who on Saturday told reporters that al-Janabi and another Mujahideen, ‘Umar Hadid, were “cowards” who had fled the city before the offensive. The Washington Post described Hadid as a ranking figure in the group now known as al-Qaida in Iraq, which it said is headed by the Jordanian militant Abu Mus‘ab az-Zarqawi, whom the US government frequently blamed for virtually all the Mujahideen activity in the country.

“I am here,” al-Janabi said. “You can see me. And if you wait for a while, you can see ‘Umar Hadid. He is still in the city,” he said according to the Washington Post report.

Army Of Muhammad Pledge To Execute American Prisoners

In a dispatch posted at 6:50pm Mecca time Wednesday Mafkarat al-Islam posted a communiqué issued by the command of the Army of Muhammad in which the organization pledged to kill what it called the “pharaohs of Iraq” in reference to the likes of US installed puppet prime-minister Iyyad ‘Allawi, Qasim Dawud, Salah an-Naqib, and Hazim ash-Sha‘lan and pledging also to kill the American prisoners they are holding.

The Army of Muhammad pledged in its communiqué to pursue the US military everywhere in Iraq and to take their operations into the heart of Baghdad after Fallujah, a battle that had pulled off masks that had not been expected.

The communiqué said that Fallujah was the first real battle in Iraq and that the number of fighters was growing – where there had been ten there were now a hundred, where there were a hundred there are now a thousand.

The communiqué said that the organization would be publicly slitting the throats of the American troops it holds captive.

Earlier the Army of Muhammad issued statements quoted by satellite TV networks, saying that it had captured a number of US prisoners. Mafkarat al-Islam has also reported that the Mujahideen in Fallujah is holding a number of US and British prisoners. A film of 36 American prisoners was turned over to al-Jazeera and al-‘Arabiyah satellite TV companies, who refused to broadcast it. The US has so far refused to acknowledge that the Mujahideen in Fallujah holds American prisoners.

According to a report issued by the Advisory Council of Fallujah Mujahideen, there are currently 136 Americans, 15 Brits and 123 Allawi Army prisoners of war.
 
#8
Methods change. Al Jazeera and the other major Arab agencies have apparently made policy changes on this sort of story. Wait.
 
#9
The Iraqi Info. officer survives under a new alias! Feck off do they have 15 of ours guys, or that many Yanks. This would be all over the papers and news.
 
#11
Corporal said:
I agree with 307. Sounds like a load of bull.
By the flea-infested beard of the prophet, Corporal, I think you're right. Propaganda shi*e for the great unwashed Iraqi masses. But in the Arab world, it doesn't have to be true. It's a fact if the "street' belives it. May their camels run dry in the desert! May their small pretty goats be afflicted with PMT! May their RPGs detonate prematurely!
 
#12
claymore said:
Corporal said:
I agree with 307. Sounds like a load of bull.
By the flea-infested beard of the prophet, Corporal, I think you're right. Propaganda shi*e for the great unwashed Iraqi masses. But in the Arab world, it doesn't have to be true. It's a fact if the "street' belives it. May their camels run dry in the desert! May their small pretty goats be afflicted with PMT! May their RPGs detonate prematurely!
Fair enough mate. :D

But if it doesn't have to be true, if one lone cleric goat humper can spout anything and the masses will believe him, how do you fight it?
 
#13
[quote="Corporal
But if it doesn't have to be true, if one lone cleric goat humper can spout anything and the masses will believe him, how do you fight it?[/quote]

Simple. Find the lone cleric(probably near a grassy knoll)and give him a couple of 5.56mm sleeping tablets, pausing only to check first that there are no NBC camera teams in the immediate vicinity.. :D
 
#14
What a great weapon propaganda is. The conspiracy theorists in the west will be all over this like a nasty Monday morning rash on your... Er, well anyway they'll be excited. They don't need proof, rumour is good enough. Next it starts getting reported in mainstream media and it gains legitamacy amongst the mass or in the least puts a question mark in their brain. With BLiars history of lieing who do they believe?
 

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#15
Birdie_Numnums said:
What a great weapon propaganda is. The conspiracy theorists in the west will be all over this like a nasty Monday morning rash on your... Er, well anyway they'll be excited. They don't need proof, rumour is good enough. Next it starts getting reported in mainstream media and it gains legitamacy amongst the mass or in the least puts a question mark in their brain. With BLiars history of lieing who do they believe?
...In Naploeonic France, official Communiqués were so frequently untruthful that the phrase << to lie like a Bulletin >> passed into the language....


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