Push Biker Runs Red Light ....Cop Fails To Sort It

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PrinceAlbert

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This was posted by CC in the aptly named "all internet videos etc in here" thread sometime last/this week. Do keep up.
 

Mav

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The funny thing is - I don't see how he could've got around the legal position. The cyclist isn't required to carry ID, or to admit who he is... so what is the policeman supposed to have done?

Not condoning it, just wondering how to fix it.
 
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when cnuts collide........
 
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He gets nicked for failing to provide an address to which a summons can be served - simples.
 

Mr_Fingerz

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Just a quick question, why is this in CA?
 
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The funny thing is - I don't see how he could've got around the legal position. The cyclist isn't required to carry ID, or to admit who he is... so what is the policeman supposed to have done?

Not condoning it, just wondering how to fix it.
The cyclist had just commited an offence, the policeman identifed S24 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984,

Arrest without warrant: constables.

(1)A constable may arrest without a warrant— .
(a)anyone who is about to commit an offence; .
(b)anyone who is in the act of committing an offence; .
(c)anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be about to commit an offence; .
(d)anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be committing an offence. .
(2)If a constable has reasonable grounds for suspecting that an offence has been committed, he may arrest without a warrant anyone whom he has reasonable grounds to suspect of being guilty of it. .
(3)If an offence has been committed, a constable may arrest without a warrant— .
(a)anyone who is guilty of the offence; .
(b)anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be guilty of it. .
(4)But the power of summary arrest conferred by subsection (1), (2) or (3) is exercisable only if the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that for any of the reasons mentioned in subsection (5) it is necessary to arrest the person in question. .
(5)The reasons are— .
(a)to enable the name of the person in question to be ascertained (in the case where the constable does not know, and cannot readily ascertain, the person's name, or has reasonable grounds for doubting whether a name given by the person as his name is his real name); .
(b)correspondingly as regards the person's address;

If he refuses to give his name and address he can be arrested, and charged with being a complete prick
 
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Half Nelson, march him behind a wall/bush, Stanley knife across the throat, remove the camera and his wallet. Then 'find him' and write it up as a drug-related knife crime. You could probably do about 3 of the gobby knob-jockeys a day and still fall within acceptable crime statistics for the area and not raise any suspicion. Keep the cash and put the cameras etc on ebay.
Sounds like you were a cop :)
 
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It seems to me that the copper is having a bad day, made worse by some council estate lawyer trying to be clever. Seen it before, it would be good if the cyclist had ridden off and a bicycle chase had ensued- that would have been funny.
 
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"Resorting to violence, typical of our police!!!"

'Violence' shoving the camera away because he's sick of being filmed by a cocky little know it all "student of the law".
 
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Arrest him for the offence? ...shit loads of paperwork for a minor offence.
Gobby cyclist, I sincerely hope the cops study the video, get the text-book answer on what the bike-plod should have done and nick him properly next time. They don't usually back down (or didn't used to). An ex-cop I knew asked a driver to please move his vehicle since it was causing an obstruction, intentionally blocking another vehicle. The driver refused until he'd finished his lunch, so it progressed to move it or you'll be nicked. He refused so the driver and his vehicle were removed by the police; his vehicle was a bus.
 
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The cyclist had just commited an offence, the policeman identifed S24 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984,

Arrest without warrant: constables.

(1)A constable may arrest without a warrant— ...........
If he refuses to give his name and address he can be arrested, and charged with being a complete prick
Yes, something like that. I believe it's also an offence to give false details.
You should post that comment on Youtube, if someone hasn't already.
 
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The cyclist had just commited an offence, the policeman identifed S24 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984,

Arrest without warrant: constables.

(1)A constable may arrest without a warrant— .
(a)anyone who is about to commit an offence; .
(b)anyone who is in the act of committing an offence; .
(c)anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be about to commit an offence; .
(d)anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be committing an offence. .
(2)If a constable has reasonable grounds for suspecting that an offence has been committed, he may arrest without a warrant anyone whom he has reasonable grounds to suspect of being guilty of it. .
(3)If an offence has been committed, a constable may arrest without a warrant— .
(a)anyone who is guilty of the offence; .
(b)anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be guilty of it. .
(4)But the power of summary arrest conferred by subsection (1), (2) or (3) is exercisable only if the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that for any of the reasons mentioned in subsection (5) it is necessary to arrest the person in question. .
(5)The reasons are— .
(a)to enable the name of the person in question to be ascertained (in the case where the constable does not know, and cannot readily ascertain, the person's name, or has reasonable grounds for doubting whether a name given by the person as his name is his real name); .
(b)correspondingly as regards the person's address;

If he refuses to give his name and address he can be arrested, and charged with being a complete prick
Does ignoring a red light count as something you can be arrested for?! Although I did just take a look at the Met's site, under stop and search:

The police officer will ask for your name and address and date of birth. You do not have to give this information if you don’t want to, unless the police officer says they are reporting you for an offence.
 
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A traffic offence was committed. The offender could not/would not provide identity. An arrest should have been made. Poorly trained copper.
 
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Wouldn't it be a hoot if said gobby cyclist get's burglarised or knocked down by a vehicle. I hope he gets a clear image of the copper saying "tough shit sir, now put your knickers on and make me a cup of tea"
 
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