Pull troops out now , says soldier

#1
Not seen elsewhere and nothing on many internet sites but buried away inside the Times: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1696451.ece

A serving soldier delivered a rare show of dissent last night by criticising Britain’s presence in Iraq on television.

Corporal Richard Bradley, of the Staffordshire Regiment, told the 10 O’clock News on BBC One: “I believe that they should pull every single British troop out of Iraq because at the end of the day were are not achieving nothing out there.

“Blokes are dying for no cause at all and blokes are getting injured for no cause at all.”

His comments came after a member of the 2nd Battalion The Duke of Lancaster’s Regiment was shot dead while patrolling al-Ashar district of central Basra.
I missed this on the news last night but I reckon that his comments must be causing a storm in MOD. I don't know if this was an official interview or the interviewer was lucky enough to get a quick soundbite off the cuff.

The Staffs have just returned to UK from Basra city and hence he has some credibility although this is obviously small picture stuff.
 
#3
Pasty Boy said:
Not seen elsewhere and nothing on many internet sites but buried away inside the Times: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1696451.ece

A serving soldier delivered a rare show of dissent last night by criticising Britain’s presence in Iraq on television.

Corporal Richard Bradley, of the Staffordshire Regiment, told the 10 O’clock News on BBC One: “I believe that they should pull every single British troop out of Iraq because at the end of the day were are not achieving nothing out there.

“Blokes are dying for no cause at all and blokes are getting injured for no cause at all.”

His comments came after a member of the 2nd Battalion The Duke of Lancaster’s Regiment was shot dead while patrolling al-Ashar district of central Basra.
I missed this on the news last night but I reckon that his comments must be causing a storm in MOD. I don't know if this was an official interview or the interviewer was lucky enough to get a quick soundbite off the cuff.

The Staffs have just returned to UK from Basra city and hence he has some credibility although this is obviously small picture stuff.
So we are achieving something? I blame Eastenders.
 
#4
Saw him, and some minging bint, gobbing off just after his CO had put his positive spin on their tour. Made what the CO said sound like so much arrse.

Either two things have happened. 1. Somebody either forgot to brief the troops up about the press, or didn't emphasise the point 'gob off and it will be career firing, career stops' sufficiently. 2. He didn't care and his stripes were on velcro anyway.

I imagine this mornings parade went something like:

'NCOs fall out, just where do you think you are going Pte Bradley?'
 
#6
No doubt the media's access to RAF Lyneham and to the returning troops was controlled by MOD's media creatures. If they don't want soldiers to comment in this way then they shouldn't allow the media to have access to them. Personally I found this a refreshing change to the usual pre-briefed 'toeing the line' stuff usually delivered by COs.
 
#7
I saw him on the news and he certainly didn't come across as the sharpest tool in the box!

But when you give the media access you have to make sure all the loose cannon are tied to the deck.

Another fine example of the Army shooting itself in the foot.
 
#8
Xenophon is right. The media are never the problem, its own forces that create difficulties! His sharpness is not the issue, because he hasn't been invited to spend a term as a visiting lecturer, he has merely delivered a killer sound-bite. Context? Balance? Sorry...and now for some weather...over to Felix Carman in our Teheran studio.
 
#12
I'm only a humble civvie so i don't know the system, but are the media even allowed to talk to soldiers individually like this? Aren't there press officers who shadow their every move and round up some not-so-dim people for the media to ask questions to?
 

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#13
He may be thick, he may be a total dullard, and most likely he's now in the deepest of deep kaka, BUT are we actually achieving anything out there (apart from for the US interests) and is it actually worth the lives of our troops.

IMHO, not likely.
 
#14
Truth hurts does it ? Its going downhill since the fighting phase ended
the locals dont like us there .Our own country dosent want us there.Its tonies war he can fight it .
 
#15
Biggest Fk up was no lessons learn't from the Balkans, Troops in, fight, win, pull back, put UN police force in, use existing government structure.

Iraq

Troops in, fight, win, no coppers, Basq party banned from helping, ie: no government structure, troops in quagmire.
 
#16
Biped said:
He may be thick, he may be a total dullard, and most likely he's now in the deepest of deep kaka, BUT are we actually achieving anything out there (apart from for the US interests) and is it actually worth the lives of our troops.

IMHO, not likely.
No one is denying him the right to have an opinion. He is probably correct in his view but it is the context in which he expresses his opinion that counts. This was not the time nor the place to air his view. Whatever the government or the public think of the military covenant we, at least, should stick to our side of it. That's not naive it just ensures we occupy the moral high ground. That not be the greatest argument in the world but there are worse places to be as any matelot and bootneck can tell you.
 
#18
I think a journo seized on a good opportunity there and must be congratulating themselves this morning.......

....grabbing someone who has spent x number of hours on a coach prior to y hours on an aircraft plus the obligatory z hours hanging around, just been reunited with their loved ones and then asking them loaded questions was sure to yield something controversial among the numbers of people that got off the bus.
 
#19
In fairness to the soldier involved he had just stepped off a coach after a 36 hour journey from Basra via Cyprus. The soldiers were mobbed by journalists on the parade square, and I really think that in the midst of an emotional reunion with his family he was caught unawares.

The Staffords have done two tours in 18 months and he was possibly speaking from that experience.
 
#20
All the UK USA troops in Iraq and Afghanistan are only figure eleven targets for the Sunni, Shia and Taliban. Iraq has oil and the yanks need to keep their interests in it,but in Afghanistan we are trying to democratise backward people who live in bibical times and no nothing but conflict all their pathetic lives.Even their kids are brought up with an AK 47 in their arms but no education to point them in the right direction. The oil wealth in Iraq is only benefiting a small number of people similar to when Saddam was in power.No wonder our lads are pi**ed off with their constant shooting and bombing all for WHAT,so that Phoney Tony can talk about it and be paid big bucks years later when he tours the states and other countries telling them how he and the monkey sorted out the worlds problems by sending his troops in.
 

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