PTSD Documentary

#1
All,

I am in the last year of a part time Masters Degree in Documentary Filmmaking. The final project is a 25 Minute Documentary on a subject of our own choice.

I want to make a film about PTSD, in particular a film about an ex Soldier suffering with PTSD, ideally an Iraq or Afghan veteran with chronic PTSD and who is about to or has just started treatment through Combat Stress.

Combat Stress are supporting my project all I need now is a volunteer, please help........

The idea is to show that PTSD is not a weakness, it can happen to anyone and that a great deal of our troops are not only receiving physical injuries but also unseen injuries.

I am in the last few years of my Army career, I am proud of our lads and I would really like to tell our side of the story for once.

Cheers
 
#5
The idea of Iraq and Afghanistan is to show that PTSD is still an issue not just one from WW1 and WW2. Combat Stress are also helping me to find someone, they are also keen to show it as a current issue as the number of people they are treating has jumped by 50% in the last few years.

Tomo5050---not Strawberried haired Tomkinsaarn by any chance?
 
#6
albertturner said:
The idea of Iraq and Afghanistan is to show that PTSD is still an issue not just one from WW1 and WW2. Combat Stress are also helping me to find someone, they are also keen to show it as a current issue as the number of people they are treating has jumped by 50% in the last few years.

Tomo5050---not Strawberried haired Tomkinsaarn by any chance?
No, baldy/grey.
 
#7
If you would like a good book on the subject, "Bloody hell" is a good one, I read it through and through and it does open your eyes to the uglier parts of warfare, if you PM your postal address I will gladly donate it to you.

"Bloody hell" was written by an ex-navy graduate who saw active service, Its a great read for anyone, he's interview alot of people over the years including paras who saw service at Goose Green and US marines who saw active service in the Vietnam War, its really open and honest, I read alot and couldn't recommend anything more fulfilling.
 
#8
No volunteers......

I submitted this post some time ago thinking that someone out there would volunteer or knew someone who would be up to it.

To date no one has come forward, I wonder why? is it that the idea of being in a documentary has put people off? or is it that no one feels their story is worth telling? maybe its because the film is only for my part time Uni course...it is but, it will be seen...there is a hugh distribution network for student documentaries, including Sky and terrestial TV.

My own view and the reason for wanting to make such a film is to tell the world what we go through, particulary those who feel abondoned by the Gov or NHS and have no where else to turn, those who have turned to Combat Stress for help.....it is worth telling...its worth shouting from tall buildings....its worth saying look what I have done for you now you need to help and listen to me..to us...

I hope someone sees value in it, if not then I will be forced to shelve a film that I feel very passionate about..
 
#9
albertturner said:
No volunteers......

I submitted this post some time ago thinking that someone out there would volunteer or knew someone who would be up to it.

To date no one has come forward, I wonder why? is it that the idea of being in a documentary has put people off? or is it that no one feels their story is worth telling? maybe its because the film is only for my part time Uni course...it is but, it will be seen...there is a hugh distribution network for student documentaries, including Sky and terrestial TV.

My own view and the reason for wanting to make such a film is to tell the world what we go through, particulary those who feel abondoned by the Gov or NHS and have no where else to turn, those who have turned to Combat Stress for help.....it is worth telling...its worth shouting from tall buildings....its worth saying look what I have done for you now you need to help and listprivacy. en to me..to us...

I hope someone sees value in it, if not then I will be forced to shelve a film that I feel very passionate about..
Okay. But have a thought for PTSD sufferers and families/friends/colleagues also affected. You can do untold damage by meddling in things you're not qualified nor fit to
broach. Maybe the reasons for no responses are things like dignity, reserve, even privacy. You decide.
 
#10
OldStripey,

Of course your absolutley right this is why I have asked for volunteers, there has to be a buy in from the person and others in the film. Filming a documentary like this is a real collaborative process, the volunteer has to not only be in the film but has to see this their film. I wouldnt have it any other way.

I dont think I have to be a qualified shrink to make a film like this, having 20 years in behind me and having been diagnosed with PTSD myself a couple of years ago has given me the foresight to think and question the areas you mention, and for this reason I approached Combat Stress, who are fully on board as they see the value.

I am sure that dignity, reserve and privacy as you mentioned are the main reasons for no one on Arrse coming forward, and of course I respect that, its hard opening yourself up to the gaze of a camera and letting it in to see otherwise intimate moments, this is why it has to be someone who is a willing volunteer, someone who wants the story told.
 
#12
I believe in your film, but I do not believe your plan is correct.
Most of the guys suffering now, are coming from Aden 63-67, Borneo,
Northern Ireland and the Falklands.
We still have the massive problem with lads from Iraq and Afghanistan in front of us.(in 5 to 10 years)
Don`t film the tip of the iceberg !

I suffer from PTSD.
I have walked around as if on a furtive fighting patrol for about 20 years.
I have a daily attack of Narcoleptia.
I am completely paralysed when emotionaly upset.
My working and sex lives are completely ruined.
Not allowed to : drive
. ...look after kids.
......go to work
. ...... drink alchohol
and I left active service in 1973. The illness clicked in in 1988
yes..........I wear that Tshirt !
(sorry............a bit bitter, the MOD turned any claim down due to lack of evidence although the German Profs have diagnosed me at 100%)
rant over.........but maybe interesting for some.
 
#13
No one listerns, even when we see out GP's NONE of them know what LIMITED services there are now in place.

Dr. Iam Plamer wrote in the Indipendent ealier this week stating no one know the level of those affected, becuase GP's don't know of Dr. Ian Plamers work, contact details.

Two problems, one for those who as yet have not been affected, iot perhaps is hard to comprehend, for those who are alreadt affected, it is a matter of finding a GP who knows and CARES enough to trust to impart YOU feelings so they may make an informed diagnosis.

IF not given the right treatments early enough, PTSD IS a LIFE changing illness for both the individual and those around his / her and yet the NHS say "The treatment for Civvi PTSD is the same for the military". Obiously he has never served in Combat"
 
#14
CharlieBubbles said:
No one listerns, even when we see out GP's NONE of them know what LIMITED services there are now in place.

Dr. Iam Plamer wrote in the Indipendent ealier this week stating no one know the level of those affected, becuase GP's don't know of Dr. Ian Plamers work, contact details.

Two problems, one for those who as yet have not been affected, iot perhaps is hard to comprehend, for those who are alreadt affected, it is a matter of finding a GP who knows and CARES enough to trust to impart YOU feelings so they may make an informed diagnosis.

IF not given the right treatments early enough, PTSD IS a LIFE changing illness for both the individual and those around his / her and yet the NHS say "The treatment for Civvi PTSD is the same for the military". Obiously he has never served in Combat"
As we've discussed before, the treatment plan is exactly the same for civilians and the military as it's the same illness, same symptoms, same prognosis. CBT is the best approach (indeed the only one with any evidence behind it).

The problem is that there isn't enough CBT availability for everyone, not just ex military personnel. The therapy supplied by ex forces people is a bit of a red herring. As I've stated before the very best CBT therapist I've seen works for a DCMHT and has never served.
 
#15
psychobabble said:
As we've discussed before, the treatment plan is exactly the same for civilians and the military as it's the same illness, same symptoms, same prognosis. CBT is the best approach
Then my friend we can agree to disagree, you see it from the psycotherapy side, ME the Service User, IF there was a service, or had been a service avilable since 1993, perhaps I would not have gone SO far down this route, who knows, who cares, the government cares little, in point of fact, it appears that the information about Dr. Ian Palmer of MAP is still not getting out to GP's who without said knowledge can't refer the individual and or his / her family, as he is prepared to see both.

Is it funding, is it someone in Whitehall trying to SIT of the REAL figures, Dr. Palmer seems to think BOTH!

Personally I no longer TRUST any NHS service, they have broken any potential they had at getting the right treatments to me in the early 90's and I have ONLY climbed out this far because of a good woman who cares, NOT the Healthcare Service Provider . . .

I haven't even be assessed to see how many triggers I MAY have, or the reasons why I machine gun women and children to death in Arab dress, the ironic thing there is, I NEVER went to the Sand Wars. Over four years in NI in the early / mid 70's and FI just after the war. Along with a whole miriade of other possibilities, where I marched into the middle of things without a thought to myself.

I was referred several years ago when I was having a very bad time of it to the CMHT, I made it known then I was a WP who had being diagnosed with Mental Health illness's and it took the CMHT EIGHT weeks to phone me and that was a PRIORITY, what's the wait now SIXTEEN weeks, or travel half way across the country. And I KNOW I am NOT ALONE . .
 
#16
So the best treatment for PTSD is CBT is it? Simple as that then. This smacks of NHS simplistic blinkered synopses, in the usual catch-all mould. At best, it's bollox.

It's like saying that you can still run a on a broken leg if you think about it the right way. But, the leg is still broken isn't it? Or not?

Until "those that know best" change their mindset and accept that psychological injuries are real, lasting and often compounded by secondary issues, people will be talking rubbish about PTSD, interminably. Lord help us !

Quote: What is CBT?
Source: http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealthinfoforall/treatments/cbt.aspx

It (CBT) is a way of talking about:

* How you think about yourself, the world and other people
* How what you do affects your thoughts and feelings.

CBT can help you to change how you think ("Cognitive") and what you do ("Behaviour)". These changes can help you to feel better. Unlike some of the other talking treatments, it focuses on the "here and now" problems and difficulties. Instead of focussing on the causes of your distress or symptoms in the past, it looks for ways to improve your state of mind now.

It has been found to be helpful in Anxiety, Depression, Panic, Agoraphobia and other phobias, Social phobia, Bulimia, Obsessive compulsive disorder, Post traumatic stress disorder and Schizophrenia. End quote.

Are we then to ignore the holistic approach, entirely? Who says that CBT is the "best way"? Not me, and probably a few sufferers would also disagree. Even Combat Stress applies counselling, therapy, and other techniques. I know, I've been there and had the treatment.

I certainly don't listen to Quacks on websites, especially those not qualified to comment. IMHO both the starter of this thread and the "experts" are dangerous, meddling nincompoops and, reaching for the salt at the moment, I will stay well away from them.
 
#17
http://www.emdr.com/index.htm

EMDR is what some at Combat Stress are being given and even NOW the local Mental Health trust WILL offer I am informed by their director EMDR to those who have Service / Combat Related Mental Health illneses, IF the diagnosis IS PTSD, with Flashback - Nightmares ect.

The therapy has to be physically reinforced, EMDR does that, CBT DOESN'T!

Coping stratogies may be fine for some, while others NEED more specialised treatment and care and as YET the NHS is MILES off the mark
 
#18
[/b]Shapiro developed an information processing theory1,2,3 to explain and predict the treatment effects seen with EMDR. This theoretical model also describes the development of personality, psychological problems and mental disorders. The following is a simplified description of Shapiro’s theory.

All humans are understood to have a physiologically-based information processing system. This can be compared to other body systems, such as digestion in which the body extracts nutrients for health and survival. The information processing system processes the multiple elements of our experiences and stores memories in an accessible and useful form. Memories are linked in networks that contain related thoughts, images, emotions, and sensations. Learning occurs when new associations are forged with material already stored in memory.

When a traumatic or very negative event occurs, information processing may be incomplete, perhaps because strong negative feelings or dissociation interfere with information processing. This prevents the forging of connections with more adaptive information that is held in other memory networks. For example, a rape survivor may “know” that rapists are responsible for their crimes, but this information does not connect with her feeling that she is to blame for the attack. The memory is then dysfunctionally stored without appropriate associative connections and with many elements still unprocessed. When the individual thinks about the trauma, or when the memory is triggered by similar situations, the person may feel like she is reliving it, or may experience strong emotions and physical sensations. A prime example is the intrusive thoughts, emotional disturbance, and negative self-referencing beliefs of posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD).
 
#19
EMDR is the most researched psychotherapeutic treatment for PTSD. Twenty controlled outcome studies have investigated the efficacy of EMDR in PTSD treatment. Sixteen of these have been published, and the preliminary findings of four have been presented at conferences. Studies using waitlist controls found EMDR superior; six studies compared EMDR to treatments such as biofeedback relaxation (Carlson et al., 1998), active listening (Scheck et al., 1998), standard care (group therapy)in a VA hospital (Boudewyns & Hyer, 1996), and standard care (various forms of individual therapy) in a Kaiser HMO facility (Marcus, Marquis, & Sakai, 1997). These studies all found EMDR superior to the control condition on measures of posttraumatic stress.
 
#20
This subject unfortunately will always be around, IMHO a website is not the place to decide what therapy is best to use as a coping strategy, as we are all different in how we respond to CBT.EMDR, REBT,anger management, counselling etc etc etc.

This is an anonymous site so we can say we are anyone with any amount of qualifications or ailments in reality
Yes we can winge moan or praise but it can be a dangerous thing as well to praise something raising someone's hopes and then their whole world comes crashing down again, exactly the same decrying a treatment on here might cause someone to forgo that treatment and miss their "chance" of coping with PTSD.
 

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