PSNI investigations into deaths during "the troubles"

#1
I was chatting to a security bod at a crown court today. He showed me a letter he'd received from PSNI. They are investigating deaths during "the troubles". They wanted to talk to this chap about a death in 1971 - over 40 years ago! From the wording of the letter the implication seemd to be (or at least the inference that I drew) was that they intended to look at all deaths during the troubles.

WTF is going on? Are they really going to investigate deaths that are over 40 years old that occurred in an IS setting in NI? Which have presumably been the subject of reports at the time, and which do not appear to be the subject of criminal complaints now? And people are paying their taxes to fund this?

Rant over.
 
#2
The answer is - Yes.
 
#4
I believe the Unit is called 'Cold Cases' and is a mix of retired RUC and G4S (I may be mistaken) They wouldn't have me coz I'm an ex soldier who's served in Ulster!!!!!!
 
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#7
"HET" - yes there was reference to that in this chap's letter. If they're relying on G4S then God help us!

Have just read the wiki link. Sounds like a good job to have, where do I apply? (Yeah, I know, I've missed the boat... why do I never hear about these jobs until they've filled all the posts?)
 
#8
It will be like the South African truth and reconciliation claptrap. Only the IRA won't admit to anything or acknowledge doing any wrong!
 
#10
It will be like the South African truth and reconciliation claptrap. Only the IRA won't admit to anything or acknowledge doing any wrong!
Under the new government of Northern Ireland, the IRA didn't kill anybody anyway, it was a big boy with a stick who ran away afterwards.
 
#11
Under the new government of Northern Ireland, the IRA didn't kill anybody anyway, it was a big boy with a stick who ran away afterwards.
Oh and Gerry Adams, wasn't C/O The whole bloody shooting match, and that nutter MacGuinness, was only looking after that rifle on Bloody Sunday, and he had no idea that it was loaded when he did or did not aim it in the general direction of the security forces.
 
#12
"HET" - Sounds like a good job to have, where do I apply? (Yeah, I know, I've missed the boat... why do I never hear about these jobs until they've filled all the posts?)
They are a decent bunch of guys and girls who've worked within the old RUC / PSNI and related skills environment. They are well schooled in the idiosyncracies of what constitutes everyday life in the Province. I'm not saying that you couldn't make it, but it wouldn't be straightforward.
 
#13
The HET merely re-examine cases to see if there is any new evidence. They have no remit to re-open investigations - that remains a police matter. Oh and they examine EVERY case attributable to the troubles including the death of soldiers. It'll still be cheaper than the bloody Bloody Sunday enquiry.
 
#14
It will be like the South African truth and reconciliation claptrap.
I don't believe so, but then I tend to look on the positive side. Who'd have considered the taped - "to be released after my death" commentaries on PIRA / IRA ops by some of the players? These, irrelevant of location, are now a matter of record and will be scrutinied in time.

I wouldn't anticipate any fast track arrests. It's the long game.......... a phrase already known to PIRA / IRA.
 
#15
I have conducted by own enquiry at a cost (absorbed by myself) of about 60 Silk Cut and a few old newspapers.

Result - Everyone who died during the troubles is still dead.
 
#16
Strange that. I remember contacting these 'gentlemen' a few years ago about the death of my brother and asking if anyone had ever been brought to trial over it. They told me it would cost me to find out. Don't remember the cost, but it wasn't cheap.
 
#17
One of the good aspects of the HET is that they inform the families of victims of what happened to their loved ones and can answer some of the questions of how, why etc.

Families are at the very heart of HET investigations and our primary objective is to give each of them a report on the death of their loved one. The HET works closely with families at every stage of its review and tries as far as possible to answer their questions and concerns. We do not underestimate the difficulties involved nor the potential emotional stress for relatives revisiting these tragic events.
 
#19
Ahh the Historical Enquiries Team... investigate all troubles related deaths but don't charge any Provo's... They couldn't be seen to have actually killed anyone now the history books are being rewritten
 

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