Protest in London

the_boy_syrup

LE
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#1
BBC 5 Live has just stated
100 Servicemen(ex?) are protesting in trafalger Square about medical conditions in the forces
I can't find any links
Any idea whats going on?

Good luck to em
 
#4
As much as i support the boys doing this. Do any of us think that 100 bods matter to the government? they would'nt listen to 500,00 who opposed the war in Iraq.
 
#5
The_Seagull said:
As much as i support the boys doing this. Do any of us think that 100 bods matter to the government? they would'nt listen to 500,00 who opposed the war in Iraq.
Or the 450,00 civvies who are protesting (politely) about the method of road taxation. They don't give a sh1t

JJ
 
#6
johnojohnson said:
The_Seagull said:
As much as i support the boys doing this. Do any of us think that 100 bods matter to the government? they would'nt listen to 500,00 who opposed the war in Iraq.
Or the 450,00 civvies who are protesting (politely) about the method of road taxation. They don't give a sh1t

JJ
Exactly, so it's a pointless exercise.
 

Goatman

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#7
Good luck to the lads and lasses ( did ARRSE know about it in advance? )

I take my hat off to them....but equally to the medics struggling to make the system work too. Thanks people.

I'll watch Sunday papers with interest ( if I can find anything beyond the cretinous Goody Vs Bollywood princess futility that is)


Lee Shaver
 
#9
Unfortunately, this government(or any other)only takes heed of violent protest.

Civil disobediance against the Poll Tax was largely ignored. One fcuk-off big riot, a few injured police officers, and the PT was dropped faster than Jordan's knickers.

You may think that I am advocating the shooting of senior political figures. But I could not possibly comment...
 
#10
This is really rather interesting. I cannot find a single mention of the hundred servicemen protesting about the appalling lack of medical care available to injured servicemen on any mainstream media/paper/TV or website.

Is there a cover-up going on? I think when servicemen protest in such large numbers in Trafalgar square it might at least get a mention? Has the government gagged the press?
 
#11
ap8889 said:
This is really rather interesting. I cannot find a single mention of the hundred servicemen protesting about the appalling lack of medical care available to injured servicemen on any mainstream media/paper/TV or website.

Is there a cover-up going on? I think when servicemen protest in such large numbers in Trafalgar square it might at least get a mention? Has the government gagged the press?

Just like the race riots in Hull a few years ago. Gangs of immigrants fighting each other in the streets (by gangs I mean groups of 50 or more).
Didn't even make the local papers.
Now I wonder how that can happen?



Quack
 

Goatman

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#12
Some very brief coverage in the IoS today (page 22) plus an Agence France Presse photo.

For some reason, I cannot find the online version.

Text as follows:

War veterans go on the attack

Around 100 veterans dressed in military fatigues marched into Trafalgar Square yesterday and erected an "unauthorised" statue of a helmeted soldier with a shattered face.

The former soldiers,some from the war in Iraq, were trying to highlight what they see as government neglect. This includes the closure of military hospitals and general lack of support for those injured while serving their country. Some have had to wait months for treatment of war injuries.

Adrian Dennis/AFP
Bravo Zulu gents. Thank you.

(Post Script: 9 out of 10 for OpSec regarding the event. 2 out of 10 for PsyOps exploitation, unless you had your own Mobile News Team onhand? next time contact RFUK for imaging via YouTube :thumleft: )


Le Chevre
 
#13
Link

MORE than 100 former service personnel took over London's Trafalgar Square today, to demand better care for those who have served in military conflict.

Veterans gathered in central London to vent their anger over a belief that they have been cast aside by the Government.

They are demanding better pension rights and medical care for those injured serving their country.

As a military band played, old soldiers in suits and ties from Suez and Korea were joined by others from more recent conflicts, such as Bosnia and the Falklands, in combat fatigues.

Denzil Connick, 50, who lost his left leg in the Battle of Mount Longdon, one of the bloodiest of the Falkland’s conflict, spoke to the crowd about the veterans’ grievances.

Mr Connick, from Blackwood in south Wales, is founder and national secretary of the South Atlantic Medal Association, for those who served in the conflict.

He said: “I am sick to death with politicians telling all of us what they are doing for us when they are doing absolutely nothing.

“We are no longer going to be stood on by the Government of this country and we want the British public to recognise that.”

He said the Government had become “far too reliant” on service charities to provide care for veterans, which it should be doing itself.

He added: “You should have automatic pension rights and automatic medical care.

"Local authorities should be geared up to prioritise housing for people leaving the forces.”

Mr Connick said he has been waiting for seven months for treatment of an exposed nerve on the stump of his leg which causes him an “immense lot of pain and discomfort.”

He believed that injured service personnel, now forced to rely on NHS care rather than specialised military provision, are not getting the treatment they need often many years after being wounded.
Image of the statue can be seen here (can't upload it for some reason??): Link
 
#14
Any journos in? Care to get a scoop?

Hell I would even forgive Kira Cochrane her misdemeanours if she reported something like this.

I returned from work in tears the other day. I treated an officer who I met in Iraq, full of life and vigour. He was in an IED attack and is such a shadow of his former self- a broken shell of a man. I really fear for him- I am very worried that he might take his own life, such is his frustration and anger at the shabby way that he has been treated by the Army, and the MoD, and in particular the lack of any joined up care for a disabled serviceman discarded by the government as no use for further fighting.

I came home and wept for a brother officer let down so badly. He is a hero. But he is being treated as less than nothing, an inconvenience, a burden on the NHS.

God knows the protestors have got good cause to protest.

Tony Blair, look on your legacy and despair.
 
#15
Very sorry to hear that ap8889, what a dogsh!t way to repay someone who has given so much, we fall over ourselves in society trying to hand out freebies to those who have or will not contribute to society (both homegrown scum and foriegn imports) so much money is wasted on wasters, there is then no money left in the kitty for blokes like this
 
#16
ap8889 said:
This is really rather interesting. I cannot find a single mention of the hundred servicemen protesting about the appalling lack of medical care available to injured servicemen on any mainstream media/paper/TV or website.

Is there a cover-up going on? I think when servicemen protest in such large numbers in Trafalgar square it might at least get a mention? Has the government gagged the press?
Even with major protests in the Capital be it in Trafalgar Square or Hyde Park you may get a two-minute slot on the fag-end of the national news of the factual occurrence of a demonstration but what you will never, ever hear or see is what any of them actually have to say.

Even if you wanted to have your say by standing on a Soap Box on 'Speaker's Corner', trumpeted throughout the world as a fine example of how this country cherishes freedom of expression, you must first submit an application for permission to Westminster City Council detailing exactly what you intend to say before permission is granted. If you have anything serious to say at all where there is the slightest chance of anyone at all taking your words seriously, then you will find very quickly that permission is denied. If you deviate at all from the script you have submitted, you will quickly be 'moved on' by the Police.

Authoritarian governments, regardless of how they seek to display their 'democratic' pedegree to the world will allow freedom of expression to exist in 'form' rather than substance as long as those who express themselves do so in a vacuum.
 
#17
I often cover demos and events in London, I'm a student Journo and Photographer, but would be happy to assist. Give Buzty a shout the next time. :thumright:

I took some pictures of the last Remembrance Day and of "Lusty". I'm setting up a blogg on Google and will post them there.
 
#18
The annoying thing is iolis, they didn't take away our freedom overnight by dragging us out and threataining to slot us with a 9mm to the back of the head if we dared oppose our great leader, they took it away, by simply making so many laws and new legislations that nobody could keep up with them.

We have somehow managed to to go down the route of china, a communist country with free trade, the current labour government has done it without a fight, this country is in a sh!t state, and no one seems to realise or care, the average brit is more concerened with the goings on in the big brother house ffs.
 
#20
mark1234 said:
The annoying thing is iolis, they didn't take away our freedom overnight by dragging us out and threataining to slot us with a 9mm to the back of the head if we dared oppose our great leader, they took it away, by simply making so many laws and new legislations that nobody could keep up with them.

We have somehow managed to to go down the route of china, a communist country with free trade, the current labour government has done it without a fight, this country is in a sh!t state, and no one seems to realise or care, the average brit is more concerened with the goings on in the big brother house ffs.
And do you see any opposition party saying that they will start repealing any of these laws given the chance.

No is the simple sad answer.




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