Pro Bullshitter?

#1
Not entirely sure i am posting this in the right place, if i'm not then can someone point me in the right direction?

OK, cliched as this will seem, i know this guy at uni (who's far far removed from being called a mate) who is CONSTANTLY bullshitting about the Army paying for his degree etc etc. I'm looking for any info that means i can prove he's bullshitting in front of a large group of people to shut him the :censored: up.

Here's a few examples of his stories:
-He's doing a vaguely sports related degree and claims he will go into the army as a PTI when he finishes.

-He's learning to drive a Challenger 2 this week, which he can then borrow as long as he books it in advance.

-He claims he can go on scout camps and scouting things instead of military training weekends

-He says the army are covering the costs for him being at uni. This includes giving him an allowance to live on and paying for all his tuition and uni fees.

-He says he gets somewhere near 12k a year from the army.

-He claims he got a graze on his shin from the muzzle discharge of a rifle through his trousers while he was "down the range"

-He manages to hold down a bar job that requires him to work both Friday and Saturday nights, so he's obviously not away at weekends on a regular basis.
I'll be sure to keep this list up to date if he comes out with any more interesting stories.........

I know he's not a member of the nearest UOTC as i had a nice long chat with them a few weeks ago.

Please please someone provide me with some websites, or a nice long list of posts telling me this is all utter bullshit, or surprise me and prove it isn't. :D
 
#2
Here's a few examples of his stories:
-He's doing a vaguely sports related degree and claims he will go into the army as a PTI when he finishes.

-He's learning to drive a Challenger 2 this week, which he can then borrow as long as he books it in advance.

-He claims he can go on scout camps and scouting things instead of military training weekends

-He says the army are covering the costs for him being at uni. This includes giving him an allowance to live on and paying for all his tuition and uni fees.

-He says he gets somewhere near 12k a year from the army.

-He claims he got a graze on his shin from the muzzle discharge of a rifle through his trousers while he was "down the range"

Not a chance on the challenger and not a hope of muzzle discharge either.
this bloke needs a good kick in for talking s**t.
 

Nehustan

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#5
Out of interest, and maybe to equip the poster with some fun ammo, what do students on Army Scholarship's actually get these days, and what are their obligations while at Uni???
 

Nehustan

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#6
Had a quick root around and came up with this page. As far as I know degrees are sponsored/ in reciept of bursaries if they are specifically required by the army. Otherwise you follow a degree course in the usual way. For instance students going on from Welbeck to study for a technical arm would almost certainly be eligible (and their A Levels at Welbeck would have been directed toward their Undergraduate course)..I think it's called a DTUS. The linked website says that for such technical undergrads they would recieve...

DTUS students are awarded a total of approximately £5,500 in bursaries per academic year. In return, students are expected to attend 45 days training at a local Military Support Unit, and serve for a minimum of 3 years as an officer after graduating. If you do not take up a commission with the MOD, you will need to repay all bursary money received.
Might be worth asking him how a sports scientist gets £12k, while a technical undergrad gets around £5.5k....
 
#7
Nehustan said:
Out of interest, and maybe to equip the poster with some fun ammo, what do students on Army Scholarship's actually get these days, and what are their obligations while at Uni???
£1500 a year at sixth form, £1000 a year at Uni and £3000 upon completing the first term of RMAS IIRC.

There is also I think an obligation to join the OTC.
 
#8
Mybestfriendismikehunt said:
Here's a few examples of his stories:
-He's doing a vaguely sports related degree and claims he will go into the army as a PTI when he finishes. Officers don't join as PTIs.

-He's learning to drive a Challenger 2 this week, which he can then borrow as long as he books it in advance. Hahahaha

-He claims he can go on scout camps and scouting things instead of military training weekends He can do whatever he likes with the Scouts

-He says the army are covering the costs for him being at uni. This includes giving him an allowance to live on and paying for all his tuition and uni fees. Not any more, see below

-He says he gets somewhere near 12k a year from the army. Again, see below

-He claims he got a graze on his shin from the muzzle discharge of a rifle through his trousers while he was "down the range" And it's back to the b0llocks again

-He manages to hold down a bar job that requires him to work both Friday and Saturday nights, so he's obviously not away at weekends on a regular basis.Any outside employment by a member of HMF requires CO's authorisation, I believe
I'll be sure to keep this list up to date if he comes out with any more interesting stories.........

I know he's not a member of the nearest UOTC as i had a nice long chat with them a few weeks ago.

Please please someone provide me with some websites, or a nice long list of posts telling me this is all utter bullshit, or surprise me and prove it isn't. :D
Under the old University Cadetship system, which finished a couple of years ago, around 30 individuals each year were given a probationary commission, paid somewhere between £9-13k pa, given a 6-figure army number, and required to be 'on the books' at OTC (though actual committment usually at CO's discretion). Tuition costs were paid by MoD, and any degree course (I think) was accepted. They also had to complete PREUC (Pre University Cadetship Course). I don't believe there are any people still in the system under this scheme.

So yes, he's talking b0llocks, but he's picked up on a few points from the old system.
 
#10
just to add to that, you cannot enter the army anymore straight in to the PT corps. You have to be a serving soldier who has been recommended for JNCO and have completed the AAPTI course. Which may i add. Is not open to officers!!!!

Make sure you time it right when you let all the info out and let us know how you got on. Preferably with a lot of pictures of everyone laughing at him.

Or even better pictures of him hanging himself after the shame of being found out to be a lying studenty type!!!!
 
#12
I think seeing the threads nearly a year old, that he isnt going to tell us what happened.
 

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