Private Army

#1
Ok so:
Catering, transport, vehicle maintenance, recruiting, GP's for medical, guard forces, air transport contracts, non UK procurement.
What's left that can be privatised?
Communications?
A fighting force of a bought in legion?

Are we going to have an Army that can function?
 
#6
#10
We could but first we need a revolution, hear me out, after said revolution maintain the military at circa 250 k, 150 army, and the others 50 k a piece.

Within the army general service battalions returned to the lists which can be manned by career dolees etc and these can be responsible for the feeding and watering of the others. It can be recruited on a basis of unwilling to work congratulations welcome to conscription and you can give the council house back, have a lovely 12x12 for you and 24 others etc . There by reducing the benefits bill.

AS for planes tanks ships etc these would be built inhouse so to speak under nationalized companies, trade courses run by qualified people to begin with on a consultancy basis until its able to run under its own steam etc thus kick starting the economy, apprenticeships and a manufacturing base.

I know the above is very far from water tight but It's a start and this vino is doing its purpose.

PLEase feel free to expand/ fine tune the above or tell me to far cough

Puts on tinfoil hat and prepares for death beans from the lizard people.
 

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#11
We could outsource expeditionary warfare? Pick where we want to get involved then pay the Chinese or the Indians to send troops instead. Our command structure, their boots. Cheap as chips
 
#13
Perhaps we should aim at a 'final curtain' force designed to enter people's houses and remove anything of value, and send to all to a big international jumble sale at Heathrow Airport. That way the government could raise the necessary funds to escape the financial crisis. I'll re-phrase that. That way the government could raise the necessary funds to escape.
 
#16
Ok so:
Catering, transport, vehicle maintenance, recruiting, GP's for medical, guard forces, air transport contracts, non UK procurement.
What's left that can be privatised?
Communications?
A fighting force of a bought in legion?

Are we going to have an Army that can function?
Anything you want In theory (including teeth units). Depends on how far the state and it's people are willing to go.

National Armed Forces (in terms of the state having the monopoly over 'violence') are a relativly new concept that developed over the last few hundred years.

It wasn't that long ago that we had private armies/ units that would be temporarily contracted to the state for the duration of the campaign. ThIs could vary from a feudal noble proving his forces to the king, privateer captains bolstering the navy or the'freelance' companies fighting in the Italian wars.

With the decline of the state and the increase in globalization, we could see a shift back to this, to a certain extent.

Cost is a main driver and from an accountants view its easier to buy in capability when you need it rather than having it on stand by (logistics, combat service support activity that is readily available).

Technology could be another driver, with the level of maintainer/ user expertise being too expertised to feasibly retain in a military - e.g. uavs, software packages.

To a lesser extent, there is an element of presentation. Using private firms at an arms length adds a degree of deniability and 'under the radar'. This is both in terms of domestic accountability, but also perceptions on the ground, where a softer footprint is more beneficial.

The private military industry has grown significantly since the fall of the wall. interesting to see how far it will go.

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#18
Are we going to have an Army that can function?
Yes, immediately that there is a credible threat to British security & territorial integrity.

Until then... Probably not. There's no willingness to pay for it.
 

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