Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by Bad CO, Nov 29, 2010.
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Courtesy of the Guardian
I imagine that Brenda is not amused....
As with all media reports, there are other sides to the issues.
Apart from Prince Andrews personal demeanour and tact, or lack of, there is a bit of cultural gap between him (and that British business community) and the US commentator.
The corruption issue is a real debate: do you want your country to sell billions of dollars worth of equipment (Saudi), or not? Do you want to win export and construction contracts (Kazakhstan, Krygistan) or not? With the catastrophic decline of western democratic influence globally, its a fact of life that - just as Prince Andrew states - you cannot win business in many countries without paying the going rate. Those countries are not going to engage in honest or transparent business, whatever anyone says. US anti-racketeering laws are killing US companies' business in many locations, except where political pressure is directly applied; UK companies have to tread a fine line, and generally win fairly small business. French, German, Italian, Chinese, Turkish companies do very well - wonder why?!
Aye, but I bet Phil is having a chuckle
not like he told any lies now is it?
Forget to compliment her tits did he?
You always have to think about the audience these diplomatic cables are written for. They aren't going to say 'Prince Andrew rightly dismissed the quality of US geography teachers...'. Yup, US diplomatic cables are written to - ultimately - help promote US policy interests; yup, Prince Andrew is an idiot; what are we expecting to see?
This whole Wikileaks saga is bizarre. Most of what has been released seems to be relatively trivial, yet cumulatively what it does is throw sand into the gearbox of international relations by 'revealing' all sorts of things that everyone knows but which are, quite simply, best left unsaid in public.
Well he might not be tactful but he isn't telling any lies......
What is so idiotic about investigating criminal acts?
Whats to investigate? We all know it happens and it is the price of doing business in some parts of the world.
Sometimes the truth hurts,but however hard you try to bury it,it will surface.If the U,S.don't like it then tough and if the lefties here are trying as usual to wreck things ,hard luck on them,we need the business,simple.What's a few quid here or there if we get the business and jobs.
So if we allow our businessmen to do this abroad, why not here? Why not allow manufacturers to offer bribes to VSOs, civil servants in MoD and MPs? They do it in other countries, it would be just an extension of doing business.
What in the name of capitalism would you know about doing business of any sort, anywhere?
You think they don't?
Oh, sorry. Didn't know this was all about me and nothing to do with the police investigating crimes.
I thought we'd be getting something like mass electoral fraud, or a covered-up murder, or a Satanist ring. But Prince Andrew ruffles a few feathers on a business trip?
Come on, Assange. You always were a ratbag, but at least you had the guise of an enemy agent. All this tittle-tattle is just pathetic.
Is that what its about, or about someone backing illegal practices and deriding those who investigate them?
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