Prince Andrew Accused of Underage Sex Acts

Maybe?
Can Yorkie take the risk?
The FBI will not sweat him, but wateboarding?

Do people usually get extradited for civil cases to the US?
 
Why would Epstein have sought to indemnify Prince Andrew as part of a 2009 settlement

The accusation is that Epstein coerced her to sleep with Andy and that Andy knew of the coercion.

If Epstein is indemnified himself then coercion cannot be used as a reason by the claimant; therefore Andy can’t have knowledge of something that didn’t happen.
 
From an American site, but it did make me chuckle. :)

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The plaintiff was poorly advised by her lawyers who were hoping to extort a quick out of court settlement from Prince Andrew. He called their bluff and now they're calling his in return. It's a legal circus. They have to know that if it eventually proceeds, PA will retain the very best lawyers in the US and all kinds of pressure will be exerted behind the scenes.

Whether Prince Andrew actually broke the law is anybody's guess. I don't think he's a wicked man who would seek out a trafficked underage girl, nor would he knowingly take advantage of one - at least while sober. He is naïve and foolish enough to have blundered into one hell of a mess. Mind you, Ehud Barak and a few others compromised themselves by having dealings with Epstein and they are a lot harder, more sophisticated, and more astute than Andrew.

What's beyond dispute is that PA is a very silly boy, almost as silly as his nephew, but not (yet) as pitiful. His future probably involves becoming the royal equivalent of a remittance man.

It's perhaps a blessing - for both of them - that the DoE isn't around to witness this shit show.
 
The plaintiff was poorly advised by her lawyers who were hoping to extort a quick out of court settlement from Prince Andrew. He called their bluff and now they're calling his in return. It's a legal circus. They have to know that if it eventually proceeds, PA will retain the very best lawyers in the US and all kinds of pressure will be exerted behind the scenes.

Whether Prince Andrew actually broke the law is anybody's guess. I don't think he's a wicked man who would seek out a trafficked underage girl, nor would he knowingly take advantage of one - at least while sober. He is naïve and foolish enough to have blundered into one hell of a mess. Mind you, Ehud Barak and a few others compromised themselves by having dealings with Epstein and they are a lot harder, more sophisticated, and more astute than Andrew.

What's beyond dispute is that PA is a very silly boy, almost as silly as his nephew, but not (yet) as pitiful. His future probably involves becoming the royal equivalent of a remittance man.

It's perhaps a blessing - for both of them - that the DoE isn't around to witness this shit show.
But Liz is.
Will Andrew be made governor of St Helena?
 
Andy hoping a settlement from 2009is going to technically get him off.
Trying to serve legal papers on a royal is a tad difficult, everyone know it.

If it goes badly for Yorkie its good bye to leaving the UK to go on holiday.
Unless he has Royal Immunity from prosecution?

But then a wife of a CIA operative got let off killing someone in an RTA in the UK?
So if they let the UK Police question her, we let the FBI grill York?
Plus a 2 for 1 deal with Julian Assange
 
But Liz is.
Will Andrew be made governor of St Helena?
**** no. He's only been accused of raping a trafficked minor...

There'll be some remote Scottish estate that needs looking after.
 
I’m not a fan of the Prince but I do think this is a fishing expedition for a large payout. I could be wrong but I read somewhere (it may have been on here) that the plaintiffs lawyer has significant form this kind of stuff in the US.
It was mentioned further back in this thread that the woman's new law firm are notorious for pursuing legal cases which have absolutely no merit with the intent of extracting settlements from people who decide it's less expensive to pay them off than to fight them in court. If PA fights the case in a US court it will cost him many, many, millions even if he wins.

If he offers to settle, it will also cost him many, many, millions. The woman's lawyer only takes on high profile cases with big payoffs and doesn't even get out of bed for less than millions. The last case that I followed that the law firm were involved in had them getting a fee of $30 million and they moaned about how it wasn't enough.

The only way for PA to win is to avoid the case altogether until the opposition give up and look for easier targets.

I‘m not a lawyer in any shape or form but I do wonder whether the Prince should be countersuing for damages for loss of reputation for example or something like that. And not just the plaintiff but her lawyers as well.

That would certainly put the cat among the pigeons so to speak!

If it is a speculative case for money and it can be shown to be as such, people might think again before trying it on like this.
PA can't sue the opposing lawyer, and the woman in question has no significant funds of her own. There is no obvious way for PA to win by going on a counterattack through US courts.

I also suspect that the woman's lawyers would also move to have the counter-suited rolled into their own as being related to their case and handled altogether. Since they want PA entangled in the US legal system, this would be playing directly into their hands.

It's a civil case. The first thing that will happen is that the opposition lawyers will demand that PA turn over all relevant documents. They will then spend years trawling through them looking for anything they can use to construct a case against him. They will strategically leak private matters which could be embarrassing to him by attaching them to court filings which then get "accidentally" made public. At each stage they'll make an offer to PA to make the whole thing go away by settling for 'x' millions.

This is how things are done in the US. Someone thinks PA has money. Someone probably thinks that he has a lot more money than he really does. The US legal system works by suing whomever is even remotely related to a case provided they have money. The only way for him to come out of this with a whole skin is to avoid the case until they get bored and look for other targets.
 
The Yanks will issue an international police warrant for his arrest.
He leaves the UK, But it might cause an international crisis for the country he is arrested in though.
They have not even attempted to raise a warrant for him on criminal charges, the Department of Justice FBI have only (apparently) asked his lawyers to talk to him (which became a back and forth via the media)
The lawyers under the civil case have got further than the DoJ & FBI by handing papers over at Windsor

His lawyers are speaking with the court, they are also doing what lawyers do
Note that the judge didn’t decide that the papers had been served, he gave extra time for them all to sort things out

It’s a leap to go from no criminal case and the legal technicalities of American civil case processes to an arrest warrant for a prince.
 
Prince Edward must be pleased, he’s no longer duty shit magnet, he’s now 3rd from bottom.
 
still haven't seen any evidence being produced other than pictures which mean nothing when you consider that every Royal and celebrity is photographed literarily millions of times and in the vast amount of cases will have no clue who those people are in the photo with them - if she had a jacket with his ****, photos of him shagging her or anything that proved he'd banged her this would be a criminal case - the very fact that it is a civil case demonstrates its a money grab and trial by media which PA will obviously lose even if he wins the case
It wouldn’t necessarily even be a criminal case. Her original claim was that she had consensual sex with Andrew at an age when it was legal for them to have done so.

In any event the US judicial system considers her an unreliable witness so she won’t even be testifying against Maxwell.
 
The Yanks will issue an international police warrant for his arrest.
He leaves the UK, But it might cause an international crisis for the country he is arrested in though.
Jesus….. for the last time, you dripping quim, THE FBI ARE NOT INTERESTED IN ARRESTING HIM IN RELATION TO ANY ALLEGED OFFENCES. If they had been they’d have attempted to extradite him, as it is no one has alleged that he’s done anything illegal in a criminal context. That’s NOONE. They want to talk to him as a witness.

A witness is not the same thing as a suspect, however much you’d like it to be.
 
It wouldn’t necessarily even be a criminal case. Her original claim was that she had consensual sex with Andrew at an age when it was legal for them to have done so.

In any event the US judicial system considers her an unreliable witness so she won’t even be testifying against Maxwell.

And isn't G-Max only being prosecuted for crimes on/around 1994-1997? I guess anything that happened when she was 17 and in 2001 just wouldn't even be broached in court.
 

RTU'd

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Jesus….. for the last time, you dripping quim, THE FBI ARE NOT INTERESTED IN ARRESTING HIM IN RELATION TO ANY ALLEGED OFFENCES. If they had been they’d have attempted to extradite him, as it is no one has alleged that he’s done anything illegal in a criminal context. That’s NOONE. They want to talk to him as a witness.

A witness is not the same thing as a suspect, however much you’d like it to be.
Calm down, feck you must have been the barracks QC & a bundle of fun on legal matters.
 
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A witness is not the same thing as a suspect, however much you’d like it to be.

That may well be the case, but it poses questions around PA’s behaviour.

For a man who has professed to be ready to assist the FBI with their enquirers, he appears to have been less than forthcoming.
The narrative now is one of ‘why won’t PA help
Jesus….. for the last time, you dripping quim, THE FBI ARE NOT INTERESTED IN ARRESTING HIM IN RELATION TO ANY ALLEGED OFFENCES. If they had been they’d have attempted to extradite him, as it is no one has alleged that he’s done anything illegal in a criminal context. That’s NOONE. They want to talk to him as a witness.

A witness is not the same thing as a suspect, however much you’d like it to be.
Who is NOONE?
 

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