Priest tells flock Ive got a son

#3
Spanny said:
What a priest shagged who's old enough to concieve a child 8O
not to mention FEMALE!! Maybe it was a slip of the finger and what he actually said was " I've got a new lawnmower"??
 
#4
Two points – the proportion of paedophiles in the Catholic priesthood is the same as mainstream society, so the jokes belong in the NAAFI, not here. Secondly, the loneliness of life as a celibate priest is unimaginable – I know two, one a very good friend from school, another from my town, and one of the two has already succumbed to alcoholism and left the priesthood. Bearing that in mind, anyone who makes the very human error of falling in love is to be pitied, not mocked. Best of luck to him, I say, and the sooner the Church reverse the policy on celibacy the better.
 
#5
wager said:
Two points – the proportion of paedophiles in the Catholic priesthood is the same as mainstream society, so the jokes belong in the NAAFI, not here. Secondly, the loneliness of life as a celibate priest is unimaginable – I know two, one a very good friend from school, another from my town, and one of the two has already succumbed to alcoholism and left the priesthood. Bearing that in mind, anyone who makes the very human error of falling in love is to be pitied, not mocked. Best of luck to him, I say, and the sooner the Church reverse the policy on celibacy the better.
Look in the dictionary if you want to find "sympathy". :roll:

While the proportion of kiddie-fiddlers in the Catholic priesthood might not be any higher than mainstream society, the Church has been found out trying to protect these scum far too many times. :evil:
 
#6
Fr McDonough then spent the next two hours explaining his situation.
I bet he was popular. Though it was slightly juicier than last week's sermon.
 
#8
wager said:
Two points – the proportion of paedophiles in the Catholic priesthood is the same as mainstream society, so the jokes belong in the NAAFI, not here. Secondly, the loneliness of life as a celibate priest is unimaginable – I know two, one a very good friend from school, another from my town, and one of the two has already succumbed to alcoholism and left the priesthood.
Two points, firstly who gives a stuff regarding the proportion of paedophiles within the Catholic priesthood to mainstream society (although I confess, I did think it would be a lot higher)? Secondly, you've pointed out that jokes belong in the NAAFI. I'd actually argue that a thread such as this should also be in the NAAFI, especially given it revolves around a totally bone topic and also closely resembles an average Sunday Sport headline.
 
#9
wager said:
Two points – the proportion of paedophiles in the Catholic priesthood is the same as mainstream society, so the jokes belong in the NAAFI, not here. Secondly, the loneliness of life as a celibate priest is unimaginable – I know two, one a very good friend from school, another from my town, and one of the two has already succumbed to alcoholism and left the priesthood. Bearing that in mind, anyone who makes the very human error of falling in love is to be pitied, not mocked. Best of luck to him, I say, and the sooner the Church reverse the policy on celibacy the better.
You expect sympathy for the biggest lying, stealing, genocide assiting organisation on the face of the planet?

Also I question your statement on the percentage of pederasts within the that particular clergy. That organisation attracted people into the Priest hood...

do you know what I can't be arrsed to even argue the point.

the Popes a Nazi and the whole dammed lot of them are going to hell.
 
#10
wager said:
Two points – the proportion of paedophiles in the Catholic priesthood is the same as mainstream society, so the jokes belong in the NAAFI, not here. Secondly, the loneliness of life as a celibate priest is unimaginable – I know two, one a very good friend from school, another from my town, and one of the two has already succumbed to alcoholism and left the priesthood. Bearing that in mind, anyone who makes the very human error of falling in love is to be pitied, not mocked. Best of luck to him, I say, and the sooner the Church reverse the policy on celibacy the better.
Sooner your priest friends stop rooting round the tired anus's of young boys under the pretence of moral education the better :D
 
#13
wager said:
Two points – the proportion of paedophiles in the Catholic priesthood is the same as mainstream society, so the jokes belong in the NAAFI, not here. Secondly, the loneliness of life as a celibate priest is unimaginable – I know two, one a very good friend from school, another from my town, and one of the two has already succumbed to alcoholism and left the priesthood. Bearing that in mind, anyone who makes the very human error of falling in love is to be pitied, not mocked. Best of luck to him, I say, and the sooner the Church reverse the policy on celibacy the better.
I'm presuming that you could reference published statistics on your first point if asked to......... :roll:
 
#14
Just to remind posters that the thread is about a priest who, for whatever reason, found that he could not keep his vows. My point was that this was a human mistake, a mistake many in society make – the figures for marital infidelity support my point here – and that we shouldn’t rush to judge. This guy is clearly not a paedophile or the press would have discovered this and publicised by now. So in reality it is a normal guy faced with a horrible situation.

Child abuse is a societal phenomenon that is not exclusive to any group or institution. The proportion of child abusers amongst the clergy is about 4%, according to the American John Jay report, and backed up by looking at the figures in the Ryan report in Ireland. The figures for the mainstream population are hard to estimate, but I’ve read (it was widely discussed in Ireland in the light of the Ryan Report) the figure of 5%, which was cited by Prof Patricia Casey, head of Psychiatry in UCD (
Code:
http://www.independent.ie/health/alternative-health/mind-amp-meaning-paedophilia-is-one-area-where-ignorance-is-certainly-not-bliss-1757118.html
)

As a Catholic, I’m disgusted by the problem of Child Abuse in the Church, just as I would if it were a youth-worker, teacher or just a man on the street. Sex offenders are like rats, they sniff out an opportunity and eventually, they will find a way. Large institutions are attractive to them – access to lots of vulnerable people and a large enough organisation to hide in. The Church attracted them for this reason, but so did the Army (I can think of two sexual abusers, one in an infantry regiment and one in the RLC who worked their way into recruit units), sports coaches, etc. That in itself is not a reason to hate the institution, it’s a reason to hate the abuser and ensure that they never get the chance to abuse again.

The jibe about Pope Benedict being a Nazi is complete BS – I’ve taken a chunk from wikipedia to illuminate.

Joseph Alois Ratzinger was born on 16 April, Holy Saturday, 1927 at 11 Schulstrasse, his parents' home in Marktl am Inn, Bavaria and baptised on the same day. He was the third and youngest child of Joseph Ratzinger, Sr., a police officer, and his wife, Maria, whose family were from Bolzano-Bozen. His father served in both the Bavarian State Police (Landespolizei) and the German national Regular Police (Ordnungspolizei) before retiring in 1937 to the town of Traunstein. The Sunday Times described the older Ratzinger as "an anti-Nazi whose attempts to rein in Hitler’s Brown Shirts forced the family to move several times." [1]. According to the International Herald Tribune, these relocations were directly related to Joseph Ratzinger, Sr.'s continued resistance to Nazism, which resulted in demotions and transfers.[2] The pope's brother Georg said: "Our father was a bitter enemy of Nazism because he believed it was in conflict with our faith". [3] The family had a sadder encounter with the Nazi regime, because of its euthanasia program for the handicapped. John Allen, Ratzinger's biographer, reports a revelation made by Cardinal Ratzinger at a conference in the Vatican on November 28th 1996: "Ratzinger had a cousin with Down's Syndrome who in 1941 was 14 years old. This cousin was just a few months younger than Ratzinger and was taken away by the Nazi authorities for "therapy" Not long afterwards, the family received word that he was dead, presumably one of the 'undesirables' eliminated during that time." [4]
His brother, Georg, became a priest as well as a musician and medievalist and is alive in 2008. His sister, Maria Ratzinger, who never married, managed her brother Joseph's household until her death in 1991. She was dutifully fulfilling a promise she made to their parents to take care of her brothers.[1] Their great uncle Georg Ratzinger was a priest and member of the Reichstag, as the German Parliament was then called.
According to his cousin Erika Kopp, Ratzinger had no desire from childhood to be anything other than a priest. At the age of 15, she says, he announced that he was going to be a bishop, whereupon she playfully remarked, "And why not Pope?" [5]. An even earlier incident occurred in 1932, when Michael Cardinal von Faulhaber, the archbishop of Munich, visited the small town in which the Ratzinger family lived, arriving in a black limousine. The future pope, then five years old, was part of a group of children who presented the cardinal with flowers, and later that day Ratzinger announced he wanted to be a cardinal, too. "It wasn't so much the car, since we weren't technically minded", Georg Ratzinger told a reporter from the New York Times. "It was the way the cardinal looked, his bearing, and the garments he was wearing that made such an impression on him." [6]
In 1939, aged 12, Joseph Ratzinger was enrolled in a minor seminary in Traunstein. [2] This period in minor seminary lasted until the seminary was closed for military use in 1942, and all students were sent home. Ratzinger returned to the Gymnasium in Traunstein. [3]During this period in the seminary, following his 14th birthday in 1941, Ratzinger was enrolled in the Hitler Youth, as membership was legally required in effect beginning March 25, 1939. [7] According to biographer John Allen, Ratzinger was an unenthusiastic member who refused to attend meetings.[4]Following the seminary closure he required continued attendance with the Hitler Youth to not receive financial penalties in the Gymnasium tuition fees. The financial penalty, which theoretically required documentation of attendance at Hitler Youth activities was overlooked when [5] a sympathetic mathematics professor allowed him not to attend any meetings. In Ratzinger's book Salt of the Earth, Ratzinger says the following " ... [T]hank goodness, there was a very understanding mathematics teacher. He himself was a Nazi but an honest man, who said to me, 'Just go once and get the document so that we have it ...When he saw that I simply didn't want to, he said, 'I understand, I'll take care of it,' and so I was able to stay free of it." [6]
 
#15
wager said:
Two points – the proportion of paedophiles in the Catholic priesthood is the same as mainstream society, so the jokes belong in the NAAFI, not here. Secondly, the loneliness of life as a celibate priest is unimaginable – I know two, one a very good friend from school, another from my town, and one of the two has already succumbed to alcoholism and left the priesthood. Bearing that in mind, anyone who makes the very human error of falling in love is to be pitied, not mocked. Best of luck to him, I say, and the sooner the Church reverse the policy on celibacy the better.
Unlike the Prieshood/Catholic Church, the rest of the population don't consider their role to be the arbiter of morality. The rest of the population does not presume to tell us what is good, bad, sinful, or that unmarried women are living in sin and will go to hell unless they are put in homes - Magdalen Homes.

Unlike the Catholic Church, the rest of the population does not have a massive, super-rich global organisation to hide behind.

Fcuk the catholic church and its kiddy-fiddling priests; Fcuk them and their rules on celibacy; Fcuk them and their starving flocks while they wallow in riches beyond our wildest dreams; Fcuk them on their tales of morality while engaged in every vice and sin. In the simplest possible terms, fcuk them.

There you go, I said it. It's out. It's not a joke, it's serious, so it doesn't need to go in the NAAFI.

BTW - I'm not anti-catholic. I just hate the organisation; one of many I can't stand for their shiite morality, shiite examples and basic shiiteness of every description.
 
#16
So, whats the big deal here then?, A priest has a son, well, so did GOD, end of story. :D
 
#17
So the priest has a son. And where, pray, are the boys parents whilst all this is going on?
 
#18
Manley said:
So, whats the big deal here then?, A priest has a son, well, so did GOD, end of story. :D
I reckon Jesus was a grudge baby.
 
#19
I wish I was perfect, but I'm not.

However, the Catholic Church imposes VERY strict rules on what priests can do. So, actually, does the CofE about the sanctity of marriage. Etc etc etc.

Most people fail to achieve perfection. Life's a bitch.
 
#20
blue-sophist said:
I wish I was perfect, but I'm not.

However, the Catholic Church imposes VERY strict rules on what priests can do. So, actually, does the CofE about the sanctity of marriage. Etc etc etc.

Most people fail to achieve perfection. Life's a bitch.
And the church is hypocritical for denying man or woman that which is according to the natural law of the human species.

By denying man that which is designed for him in nature (or by God for that matter), the church is going against both nature AND God.

The church would make freaks of the priests - it would make them unnatural in their physical and mental behaviour, and thus completely lacking in understanding of their fellow man, or for that matter, women.

The church seeks to make its accolytes an order of magnitude greater and 'nicer' than the common man, so 'nice' in fact that they can preach morality to us, whilst understanding little of what drives us, being disallowed from engaging in nature's (and God's) greatest gift - the act of procreation.

Good for man, good for woman, good for the species, designed by nature, BAD for priests.
 

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