Press ups etc for children

#1
Good evening all

I have a question for all you PTI's etc out there.

My little girl has recently taken up Gymanstics (she's 6), I arrived home from work tonight to discover her and MrsZippy practicing the days Gymnastic lessons, which apparently included press ups them being full blown straight back only hands and toes touching the floor you know the ones the same kind you have all done thousands of during your carreers.

I seem to remember that ladies were encouraged to do pressups on their knees for some reason or other that has been lost in the mists of time

I am also a cadet instructor and "we" can't have our cadets doing press ups unless in the presence of a fully qualified PTI.

so the question is can anybody deliver chapter and verse as to why my 6 year old doing press ups may be damaging to her little body?

If the consensus is that it's ok then fair enough I would just rather her not get to injured at such a tender age.

cheers
Zippy483
 
#3
zippy483 said:
I seem to remember that ladies were encouraged to do pressups on their knees for some reason or other that has been lost in the mists of time
I seem to recall that had something to do with WRAC being a bunch of winging phys. dodgers


Tarts.
 
#4
Funny enough that's what I thought it was. Mind you it's the same for the Cadet Leadership Course - blokes do 30 push-ups while the girls do something like 20 with their knees on the ground. Probably something more than just sexism in that case.
 
#5
It's the why's of girls with knees on the ground that I'd like to know the Gym coach is qualified which is why I haven't just jumped in there said eh that's not right

I just need to be armed with a few "facts" before I go off half cocked, I have no problem with her doing press ups etc if it isn't going to do her any sort of injury that can be avoided, I don't see much wrong with it if properly supervised, probably just an neurotic parent you know how it goes :)
 
#6
I think it has something to do with the strength of the female breastbone. Apparently RAF-types are advised to do the same lest their spines give way.
 
#7
As I understand it there is little, aside from the obvious, difference in physiology between the sexes whilst children.
Its only later during puberty that physiology changes and women struggle with press-ups due to less upper body muscularation/instilled mincerism.

Either way your daughter is going to need some serious strength to become proficient at gymnastics, and the trainers more than likely know what they are doing.

Thinking about it I've never seen a trainer go anywhere near as hard on a girl as they would a guy - both sexes.
 
#9
Fezzick said:
Funny enough that's what I thought it was. Mind you it's the same for the Cadet Leadership Course - blokes do 30 push-ups while the girls do something like 20 with their knees on the ground. Probably something more than just sexism in that case.
No, just fucking phys. dodging, they should read some Virginia Wolfe, that would fucking learn'em.


Tarts
 
#11
Females generally cannot do as many press ups as guys because they lack the natural higher upper body strength of males. Which is why some PTIs let the females do them on their knees if they have to.

Thats all - if your daughter can do them then let her do them
 
#12
Mine started gymnastics at 5, and various martial arts "tots" classes at about the same age. Both activities included press ups. There's absolutely no reason not to do them; at that age they can either manage them or they can't (and good instructors will allow easier variations for those that can't).

I'd say an early start on upper body strength has to be a Good Thing; hope she's enjoying the classes!
 
#13
My daughter (who's just turned 10 years old) has been doing press ups as part of her gymnastics training for a year or more now with no side affects. I am more amazed at the amount of sit ups and core strength work that they do, she has ended up with an awesome six pack though.

C_of_J
 
#14
Most women in the army struggle to do pressups and achieve a decent runtime because they are fat lazy gronkers. Those that bother their arses to do a bit of phys have no problems.
 
#15
Considering the OP's daughter is likely to spend the next few years using her cunt to break her fall off the beam, or smashing her grid on the asymmetric bars, doing a few press-ups is hardly the main area of concern.
 
#16
ooooh_matron said:
Considering the OP's daughter is likely to spend the next few years using her * to break her fall off the beam, or smashing her grid on the asymmetric bars, doing a few press-ups is hardly the main area of concern.
I very rarely get offended but your use of language in this post, in relation to a six-year-old, is rather unwarranted.
 
#17
Sangreal said:
ooooh_matron said:
Considering the OP's daughter is likely to spend the next few years using her * to break her fall off the beam, or smashing her grid on the asymmetric bars, doing a few press-ups is hardly the main area of concern.
I very rarely get offended but your use of language in this post, in relation to a six-year-old, is rather unwarranted.
Call it what you want then; either way it'll look like a smiling chimp's face after a few years of bashing it around gym equipment.
 
#18
ooooh_matron said:
Sangreal said:
ooooh_matron said:
Considering the OP's daughter is likely to spend the next few years using her * to break her fall off the beam, or smashing her grid on the asymmetric bars, doing a few press-ups is hardly the main area of concern.
I very rarely get offended but your use of language in this post, in relation to a six-year-old, is rather unwarranted.
Call it what you want then; either way it'll look like a smiling chimp's face after a few years of bashing it around gym equipment.

Fuck off and don't try to be flippant. You're out of order and should either apologise to the OP or do one.
 
#19
zippy483 said:
so the question is can anybody deliver chapter and verse as to why my 6 year old doing press ups may be damaging to her little body?
Not chapter and verse, but I can relay the following info from my sons (5 and 9 when they started) Kick Boxing class.

Part of the class is Phys, for both male and female, regardless of age.

The instructor has them doing press ups, sit ups, squats etc and one of the parents raised the concern that you have, here was the Instructors answer in a nutshell.

Things like all of the above raised have no detrimental affect, the whole issue has arisen through stories circulating about children using weights to train. Apparently excessive weight training is a no no as it can cause bone fusing in young children and can have extremely detrimental affects in later life. However normal phys training such as press and sit ups are no problem at all, the body is designed to lift it's own weight regardless of age. The worry about weight training has crossed over into "normal" phys and has then become "urban knowledge" which has made parents and teachers believe that any form of strenuous exercise is bad for their kids.

It was his firm belief that this was part of the reason that we have a load of fat kids around today, parents wrongly believe that none weight assisted training will harm them.

I believe him, he's an ex RGJ PTI, a Secondary school PE teacher and my kids MA teacher so I reckon he knows more than me.

Since they have started they are definitely both better defined and a hell of a lot fitter with absolutely no detrimental affects, unlike their dad who likes to watch with a beer in one hand and a BK Whopper in the other.
 
#20
Sangreal said:
ooooh_matron said:
Sangreal said:
ooooh_matron said:
Considering the OP's daughter is likely to spend the next few years using her * to break her fall off the beam, or smashing her grid on the asymmetric bars, doing a few press-ups is hardly the main area of concern.
I very rarely get offended but your use of language in this post, in relation to a six-year-old, is rather unwarranted.
Call it what you want then; either way it'll look like a smiling chimp's face after a few years of bashing it around gym equipment.

Fuck off and don't try to be flippant. You're out of order and should either apologise to the OP or do one.
I'm not trying to be flippant you crying girl. I was pointing out that there is a risk of far higher injury than that imparted by a few press-ups; like necrosis, chronic stress injuries and cartilage tears around joints and bones (especially the radius bone) and chronic joint pain throughout their lives.

Which makes gymnastics nearly as painful as you defending a complete stranger's 6 year old daughter from the extremes of bad language.

You giant squirming horses vagina.
 
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