Presidential elections in Moldova

#1
They has happened 30 October and were the first direct elections during the last 20 years.
After 99.33% votes counted we see that

Предварительные результаты выборов президента Молдовы 30 октября 2016 года
It looks as the second tour will be needed because no one has absolute majority
Who are the leaders? They are
- Igor Dodon - openly pro-Moscow candidate, chairman of Socialist party.
- Maia Sandu - American educated economist, worked in the World bank. She was supported by ruling pro-Western coalition and also by pro-Western opposition. Other main pro-Western politicians didn't take part in the elections and supported ms.Sandu.

Third place is occupied by Dmitry Chubachenko (with 6%).

He is also pro-Moscow candidate from 'The Our Party' that head Renato Usatiy

has to flee Moldova being (many suspect falsely) accused in criminal acts.
Mr.Usatiy is a businessman and is very popular in Moldova. He was a mayor or the second largest city in the country. Rulling pro-Western coalition feared (they have ground to think this way) that mr.Usatiy could be elected as a president.
Opinion poll made before the elections gave mr.Dodon about 35-40%. So Moldovan pro-Western (both from ruling coalition and from opposition) politicians hoped that their candidate ms.Sandu has good prospect to win.
But there are realities on the ground.
Now, apparently pro-Moscow candidate - mr.Dodon would be Moldovan president.

Why elections is this small, poor, God forgotten European country are important?
The are Russian troops in Trasdniestria (separatist Moldovan region).
Also Moldova is a model country and its example shows future probable outcome of future Ukrainian elections.
 
#3
There is a country in Europe - Moldova (it is between Romania and Ukraine).
Local language - Moldovan is in fact Romanian (though with a lot of borrowings from Russian). Most of Moldovans speak Russian and for many it is a native language.
 
#4
Pro-Russian candidate to face second round in Moldova presidential vote
Do they go back east or do they carry on going west:
With 99.5 percent of votes counted, preliminary results showed candidate Igor Dodon, who wants to reverse Moldova's course toward European integration, had won 48.5 percent, and his main pro-European challenger, Maia Sandu, had 38.2 percent.

Dodon needed to win 51 percent of votes to avoid a run-off on Nov. 13.
Moldova - Wikipedia
Transnistria - Wikipedia
 
#5
So will Sandu have an unfortunate accident before the run off, will Dodon get over 100% of the votes in the run off or will Russian troops cross the border after a Sandu win to 'protect Russian minorities'?
 
#6
There is an interesting detail.
According to Moldovan Law independent candidates have to collect petitions in their support with no less than 15000 signatures. It appears that 4 candidates got less real votes during elections than 15 thousands.
The most interesting character is Ana Gutsu. She got less than 2500 real votes.

She looks as a character from Harry Potter, does she?
Her real surname btw is ... Petrova. But she regards herself as Romanian and changed her surname to Gutsu.
2 years she was an MP and her legislative initiatives were remarkable. She proposed to call 16 May as a day of national mourning. That day Russian troops cleared modern Moldova from Turkish troops and Turkish rule. She proposed to provide state funding only to schools with Romanian as a language of education.

Edited to add. There is a lot of handsome Moldovan women. Sofia Rotaru is Ukrainian born, ethnically Moldovan singer that is fantastically popular in Russia.
 
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#7
So will Sandu have an unfortunate accident before the run off, will Dodon get over 100% of the votes in the run off or will Russian troops cross the border after a Sandu win to 'protect Russian minorities'?
I believe that she will serve to Moldovan people as an MP or in other way. She is well educated, nice woman and could represent Moldova in international organizations. Why not?
I wrote about it previously. Now Moscow tries to use democratic methods (elections) to promote pro-Russian politicians on the post-Soviet space. Clever electorate that votes in the right way would be given by economical carrots. More right (in the case with Moldova) be paid for carrots, apples, other fruits and vegetables, for wine and so on. Moldovan wine and brandy are very popular in Russia. So access to Russian market would be very helpful for poor Moldova.
 
#8
Who cares? Moldova is in the Russian sphere of influence of what god damn interest is it to the West?

Up until the EU got it's lebensraum tendency it was well within the Russian sphere......
 
#9
Who cares? Moldova is in the Russian sphere of influence of what god damn interest is it to the West?

Up until the EU got it's lebensraum tendency it was well within the Russian sphere......
Apparently you are Putin's appologist or/and influenced by Putin's agitprop.
First of all. At least now Moldova is not in Russian sphere of influence. The West tries to do its best to incorporate this small country in NATO, the EU but without any visible results.
Yes, Moldova itself is not so important. But it is an example. It is a model. It could cause domino effect on the post-Soviet space (especially taking into account that Ukraine is quite near).
 
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#10
Apparently you are Putin's appologist or/and influenced by Putin's agitprop.
Yes, Moldova itself is not so important. But it is an example. It is a model. It could cause domino effect on the post-Soviet space (especially taking into account that Ukraine is quite near).
Are you suggesting that the Ukrainians will take their lead from what happens in Moldova? Really? Why would they do that?
 
#11
Are you suggesting that the Ukrainians will take their lead from what happens in Moldova? Really?
Yes, Moldova is, in fact, a demonstration of future (possible) political processes in Ukraine.
Why would they do that?
It's economy, stupid
pres.Clinton
Economical situation in both countries is about the same. The right word here is catastrophe. So end of rule of corrupted pro-Western elites (in both countries) is predictable.
 
#12
Yes, Moldova is, in fact, a demonstration of future (possible) political processes in Ukraine.


Economical situation in both countries is about the same. The right word here is catastrophe. So end of rule of corrupted pro-Western elites (in both countries) is predictable.
You think Ukrainians will swap for corrupted Russian elites? The same elites that have financed the destruction of the Eastern regions of their country?

Interesting perspective.
 
#13
Despite mentions of food and drink exports, above, the main industry of Moldova is money-laundering from Russia to outside. This is also the country where, in just one theft, an eighth of the countries GDP was 'disappeared'.

A favourite method involves making a 'contract' between two shell companies for delivery of goods or services, one company in Moldova and the other external. The contract is not met (the goods are fictional and never existed) so the external company goes to court in Moldova with the contract as evidence and a (bent) judge orders payment from inside Moldova to outside though the funds have actually entered Moldova from Russia. Bingo, clean money based on legal paperwork.

It seems unlikely that this situation can be cleaned up in any democratic way, so perhaps the country is stuck in the Russian way of doing things.
 
#15
You think Ukrainians will swap for corrupted Russian elites? The same elites that have financed the destruction of the Eastern regions of their country?

Interesting perspective.
Eastern regions were damaged by Ukrainian military after orders issued by pro-Western politicians that captured power by force.
It is up to Ukrainian people to decide its future. What are chances of pres.Poroshenko and parties from ruling coalition to be reelected
Corruption Is Killing Ukraine's Economy
Corruption perception there is worse than it is in Russia, according to Transparency International. Poroshenko’s public approval rating, after winning the presidency with 55% of the vote in 2014, is now 6.4%...
Poroshenko’s political bloc, known as Solidarity, or “Solidarnist,” would receive just 9% of votes if parliamentary elections were held today.
Note, that pres.Yanukovich had much bigger (about 20%) approval rating before the coup happened in Kiev.
Ukraine has been in perpetual crisis mode since the fall of the Soviet Union and independence 25 years ago. Since then, the country has rifled through 24 prime ministers. In an informal survey of a dozen fund managers from Des Moines to London, Volodymyr Groysman, isn’t much better than Arseniy “Yats” Yatsenyuk, Washington’s favorite, who took over Ukraine after Yanukovych’s ouster in February 2014.
It mirrors the situation in Moldova. So expected outcome would be about the same.
 
#16
There is a country in Europe - Moldova (it is between Romania and Ukraine).
Local language - Moldovan is in fact Romanian (though with a lot of borrowings from Russian). Most of Moldovans speak Russian and for many it is a native language.
How are the Russian troops in Transnistria resupplied? I ask because a lot of the old ammunition left by the Soviets in the western part of Moldova is currently being destroyed. However I suspect that across the river their lurks all sorts of secret death traps

Ms Sandu is a real smuglyanka moldavanka

or the Ukrainian version

 
#17
Apparently you are Putin's appologist or/and influenced by Putin's agitprop.
You forgot 'useful idiots'
First of all. At least now Moldova is not in Russian sphere of influence.
Member of CIS so Russian influence:
Commonwealth of Independent States - Wikipedia
The West tries to do its best to incorporate this small country in NATO, the EU but without any visible results.
More agitprop. Nations leave the Soviet Union and run to NATO for mutual defence. They ask to join not asked to join:
NATO and Moldova - Wikipedia
Yes, Moldova itself is not so important. But it is an example. It is a model. It could cause domino effect on the post-Soviet space (especially taking into account that Ukraine is quite near).
If they choose to go back east, so be it. Their economy will undoubtedly boom like all those other former Sov states in the Russian sphere of influence:rolleyes: Alternatively, they can get rid of their corrupt systems and move to the West which is what the Ukraine is trying to do and its loans from the IMF.

It's unlikely bearing in mind the results but this is their choice, not Russia's, not the EUs, not NATOs.

Those troops are still in Transnistria illegally btw:
Transnistria - Wikipedia
Who recognises Transnistria? Answer, nobody other than a couple of Russian seized autonomous regions:
International recognition of Transnistria - Wikipedia
Oh, and the 'Russian sphere of influence' my bold below:
NATO PA - RESOLUTION371 on THE FUTURE OF NATO-RUSSIA RELATIONS
11. URGES the government and the parliament of Russia :

a. to conduct Russia’s foreign affairs, particularly its relations with former Soviet Republics, in a manner that abides by the principles of the Charter of the United Nations, the Statute of the Council of Europe, the Helsinki Final Act of 1975, the 1990 Paris Charter, and the 1999 Istanbul Charter for European Security,namely:

i. sovereign equality and respect for the rights inherent in sovereignty of other states, including their territorial integrity and the inviolability of their frontiers;

ii. non-intervention in the internal affairs of another sovereign state;

iii. refraining from the threat or use of force;

iv. peaceful settlement of disputes;

v. the principle "… that no state, group of states or organisation … can consider any part of the OSCE area as its sphere of influence” (1999 Istanbul Charter for European Security);

b. to respect its commitments which were taken at the Istanbul OSCE Summit in 1999 and has to withdraw its illegal military presence from the Transdnestrian region of Moldova in the nearest future;

c. to reaffirm Russia ’s commitments to partnership and co-operation with NATO and to support this with concrete action;
A view on Transnistria: Meet the People of a Soviet Country That Doesn’t Exist
 
#18
@KGB_resident Sergey, didn't Russia sign this?
http://www.osce.org/mc/39569?download=true
8. Each participating State has an equal right to security. We reaffirm the inherent right of each and every participating State to be free to choose or change its security arrangements, including treaties of alliance, as they evolve. Each State also has the right to neutrality. Each participating State will respect the rights of all others in these regards. They will not strengthen their security at the expense of the security of other States. Within the OSCE no State, group of States or organization can have any pre-eminent responsibility for maintaining peace and stability in the OSCE area or can consider any part of the OSCE area as its sphere of influence.
 
#20
Eastern regions were damaged by Ukrainian military after orders issued by pro-Western politicians that captured power by force.
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Er, no, Eastern regions were damaged by "seperatists" financed by Russian oligarchs (source: KGB_resident) and supported logistically and often on the ground by Russian military (source: recently leaked emails).
 

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