Preserve it or let it rot away?

#2
It needs to be preserved. It is a reminder of the horrors that we are capable of and also a reminder of why we need armies. The latter being something that needs to be reinforced in this day of illegal wars and dilluded tree huggers.
 
#3
I'm not in favour of refurbishing it.
There is a method of conservation that basically preserves things in stasis. ie keep it exactly as it is without allowing further decay. If you refurbish the place you are making it a replica.
 
#4
Preserve it, but do not "enhance" it. It is probably the most important site in the history of man's inhumanity to man in Europe, if not the world.
 
#5
The problem with refurbishing is it may take away some of the impact by making it too clean or glitzy, then it could also cheapen it with badly done atmospheric/moody design. It must be retained in an appropriate way.

The impact it has at the moment is very humbling to say the least. A group of friends went a few years ago and more than a few of them couldnt complete the tour with being too shaken from seeing a few tons of human hair that was to be turned into socks for u-boat crews.

Edit to add - Bet me too it Tiger-Monkey, i was too busy spell checking! The best way i have heard the camp put was as an example of "humanities inhumanity".
 
#6
I was under the impression that much of it was already a refurbishment/reconstruction. Owing to most of the original buildings being destroyed as they were full of lice and disease etc
 
#7
jagman said:
I'm not in favour of refurbishing it.
There is a method of conservation that basically preserves things in stasis. ie keep it exactly as it is without allowing further decay. If you refurbish the place you are making it a replica.
Seconded, I think conservation is the way forward.
 
#8
sierradelta said:
I was under the impression that much of it was already a refurbishment/reconstruction. Owing to most of the original buildings being destroyed as they were full of lice and disease etc

Sounds like Knook camp to me
 
#9
Seeing how the EU is currently proposing to rewrite the history of WW2 to make it less contentious, I vote for preservation.....
 
#11
I think it needs to be preserved. It's without a doubt the most sombre place i have ever visited in my life. It needs to be kept the way it is to show people just how badly people have been treated!
 
#12
nuttymonkey said:
I think it needs to be preserved. It's without a doubt the most sombre place i have ever visited in my life. It needs to be kept the way it is to show people just how badly people have been treated!
you could be talking about Tidworth
 
#14
meridian said:
It should be left to rot and dissapear into the earth as time progresses. As it fades so should the memories
I disagree entirely. It needs to be preserved to remind us of one of the darkest hours in our history. We need to remember what happend so we can avoid it in future.

As it happens I dont think this should be limited to the holocaust. I think we should pay equal attention to Cambodia and Stalins Russia if we are to learn anything from history.
 
#15
jew_unit said:
meridian said:
It should be left to rot and dissapear into the earth as time progresses. As it fades so should the memories
I disagree entirely. It needs to be preserved to remind us of one of the darkest hours in our history. We need to remember what happend so we can avoid it in future.

As it happens I dont think this should be limited to the holocaust. I think we should pay equal attention to Cambodia and Stalins Russia if we are to learn anything from history.
At what point do we decide that its time to move on?
 
#16
sierradelta said:
I was under the impression that much of it was already a refurbishment/reconstruction. Owing to most of the original buildings being destroyed as they were full of lice and disease etc
You are thinking of Bergen-Belsen which was liberated by the Britsih Army

Preserve it, but do not "enhance" it. It is probably the most important site in the history of man's inhumanity to man in Europe, if not the world.
Absolutely right, some memories should be kept alive.
 
#17
drain_sniffer said:
jew_unit said:
meridian said:
It should be left to rot and dissapear into the earth as time progresses. As it fades so should the memories
I disagree entirely. It needs to be preserved to remind us of one of the darkest hours in our history. We need to remember what happend so we can avoid it in future.

As it happens I dont think this should be limited to the holocaust. I think we should pay equal attention to Cambodia and Stalins Russia if we are to learn anything from history.
At what point do we decide that its time to move on?
About the same time that we get rid of remembrance day.
 
#18
As a historical site, it should be preserved, with an eye to keeping it authentic and not modified in any form. However, I find it doubtful that the specter of atrocities past will ever deter certain states or extremists from going down the road to genocide, especially those found in Africa. In a perfect world it would give people pause, but humanity always forgets it's lessons learned, no matter how large and ugly you make the reminders.
 
#19
jew_unit said:
drain_sniffer said:
jew_unit said:
meridian said:
It should be left to rot and dissapear into the earth as time progresses. As it fades so should the memories
I disagree entirely. It needs to be preserved to remind us of one of the darkest hours in our history. We need to remember what happend so we can avoid it in future.

As it happens I dont think this should be limited to the holocaust. I think we should pay equal attention to Cambodia and Stalins Russia if we are to learn anything from history.
At what point do we decide that its time to move on?
About the same time that we get rid of remembrance day.
excellent reply.

keep it, its just as important if not more so than any monument/construction in the past 100 years.

if anyone's interested there's a very chilling documentary called 'nacht and nebel' its in french with english subtitles made just after the war i believe.
 
#20
Should we let it disappear into the mud ? NO !!

Nor should we remove war memorials or stop tending the war graves . These are all memorials to people who did not survive and who made sacrifices or were sacrificed for the glory of politicians and egos. We must never foget that fact. Even if we are currently engaged in two wars that are based on lies. That doesn't make the lads and lasses who serve and are injured or killed any less worthy of being remembered.

D_B
 
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