Presentable Watches

Here's a dirty little secret: many watches currently being sold as "pre-owned" by non traditional and non official outlets at considerable discounts are in fact new.

Doesn't happen with the really high end stuff but the stark fact is that many so called luxury watch brands are divisions of large outfits and have to keep churning them out despite the fact that the market has softened.

Also stuck in a old business model where they only want sell to wholesalers and authorised retailers in bulk. The whole concept relies on very high margins.

But market is difficult so they in turn have to shift that and yes indeed move stock on to the grey market. Watch makers know this but don't know what to do about it.

End result is a complete mess causing consumer confusion over wildly differing pricing and general loss of confidence.

Give it a few years and there will be far fewer makers
It happens in the gun trade , dealers dont want to discount as the importers/distributors like them to price fix (illegal) so dealers sell brand new never fired guns as ex demo and discount by 10-20% .
 
It happens in the gun trade , dealers dont want to discount as the importers/distributors like them to price fix (illegal) so dealers sell brand new never fired guns as ex demo and discount by 10-20% .
Think it extends across many formerly retail only specialist products, another example being the ludicrously over priced high end cosmetics market.

Interesting to note that watch makers are worried by market research that shows a trend for younger people to no long wear watches, smart, dumb, classic or new, at all.

Just don't see the need or value, so market may eventually end up mass market and high end with a limited collector market, the historic mid market "luxury" brands going the way of the pocket watch
 
This guy is trained by a highly reputabl chap and has set out on his own. He has some lovely classic watches, not all of which will break the bank. Newly added
 
Does it have to be huge and showy?

I got one of these a couple of years ago, having had a few good months at work. It’s a classic size and look. Most of all, it’s understated. It still makes me smile every time I wear it, and I get a lot of compliments on it.

Longines Conquest Heritage Automatic Men's Watch
That's really handsome, could see it going well with a dinner jacket (at least when I'm not playing James Bond & wearing my Seamaster). I'd prefer the gold to be replaced with black or silver, though.
 
That's really handsome, could see it going well with a dinner jacket (at least when I'm not playing James Bond & wearing my Seamaster). I'd prefer the gold to be replaced with black or silver, though.
Thank you. I saw it when passing through an airport, hidden in among all the more bling stuff. It just looked classier. As I say, it still makes me smile.

It's a remake of an older watch from their range - branded 'Heritage' - and a lot of people have asked if it's an heirloom.
 
I've not worn a watch in yrs, but treated myself to cheap (£130) Seiko

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If I get in the habit of wearing a watch I might treat myself to something dearer better, maybe an Omega
 
I have one of these for best:
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One of these was a present from my late parents (although I've put a metal bracelet on it):
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And one of these for every day use (luminosity lasts over 8 hours):
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Here's a dirty little secret: many watches currently being sold as "pre-owned" by non traditional and non official outlets at considerable discounts are in fact new.

Doesn't happen with the really high end stuff but the stark fact is that many so called luxury watch brands are divisions of large outfits and have to keep churning them out despite the fact that the market has softened.

Also stuck in a old business model where they only want sell to wholesalers and authorised retailers in bulk. The whole concept relies on very high margins.

But market is difficult so they in turn have to shift that and yes indeed move stock on to the grey market. Watch makers know this but don't know what to do about it.

End result is a complete mess causing consumer confusion over wildly differing pricing and general loss of confidence.

Give it a few years and there will be far fewer makers
I think there are a lot of 'marketing' operations out there who have watches made up by third party manufacturers and simply tout them as being for sale rather than having a real stake in the manufacturing end of the business.

I have said before my mucker Greek Andy (who was actually Jewish) up in Leeds did a nice line in used Rolex's. He used to buy and sell and make a profit. His tip was that most bricks and mortar jewellers who have Rolex and similar franchises get dicked with 'a parcel, or pack' of watches and have no say in what the get. Rolex always throws in a sold gold high value item, which if you are a jeweller in a market town means you have been shafted. Andy reckoned a hugely big discount off the solid gold jobs just so the jeweller could get their money back.
 
I think there are a lot of 'marketing' operations out there who have watches made up by third party manufacturers and simply tout them as being for sale rather than having a real stake in the manufacturing end of the business.

I have said before my mucker Greek Andy (who was actually Jewish) up in Leeds did a nice line in used Rolex's. He used to buy and sell and make a profit. His tip was that most bricks and mortar jewellers who have Rolex and similar franchises get dicked with 'a parcel, or pack' of watches and have no say in what the get. Rolex always throws in a sold gold high value item, which if you are a jeweller in a market town means you have been shafted. Andy reckoned a hugely big discount off the solid gold jobs just so the jeweller could get their money back.
Car manufacturer to dealer: "We've got a new model. You'll need to buy 10. Here they come, all top spec in beige. You do want to keep your franchise don't you?"

Watch manufacturer to shop " Here's your batch of 20 watches, 2 plain ladies, 2 plain men's, 10 mid range and 6 top end gold and diamond. You do want to keep your franchise don't you?"
 
Unfortunately, I've come across one of these:

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I think it's fecking gorgeous and I really want one. They retail for £3600 but I can get one tax free for £3k no problem and after trying it on have a deposit on one for collection on 9th April. I already own a Moonwatch so I'm familiar with Omega but I wanted a quality watch that I could wear everyday without drawing attention to it. However, I'm having second thoughts. It's not a matter of affordability but for some reason the fact that it costs £3k is really nagging at me and I can't quite shake it. I've had a good look around for an alternative around the £1k mark but can't really find anything. To be honest, I'm not that much of a watch nut so the brands are slightly lost on me. Any suggestions chaps?
 
Unfortunately, I've come across one of these:

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I think it's fecking gorgeous and I really want one. They retail for £3600 but I can get one tax free for £3k no problem and after trying it on have a deposit on one for collection on 9th April. I already own a Moonwatch so I'm familiar with Omega but I wanted a quality watch that I could wear everyday without drawing attention to it. However, I'm having second thoughts. It's not a matter of affordability but for some reason the fact that it costs £3k is really nagging at me and I can't quite shake it. I've had a good look around for an alternative around the £1k mark but can't really find anything. To be honest, I'm not that much of a watch nut so the brands are slightly lost on me. Any suggestions chaps?
Buy it, it’s lovely and every time you look at it you will remember that. I have the Omega 300, similar to that, it’s ******* ace and I will never regret the money spent on simply a watch.
 
Unfortunately, I've come across one of these:

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I think it's fecking gorgeous and I really want one. They retail for £3600 but I can get one tax free for £3k no problem and after trying it on have a deposit on one for collection on 9th April. I already own a Moonwatch so I'm familiar with Omega but I wanted a quality watch that I could wear everyday without drawing attention to it. However, I'm having second thoughts. It's not a matter of affordability but for some reason the fact that it costs £3k is really nagging at me and I can't quite shake it. I've had a good look around for an alternative around the £1k mark but can't really find anything. To be honest, I'm not that much of a watch nut so the brands are slightly lost on me. Any suggestions chaps?
Buy it!
I've posted before - I wear a Submariner that I bought when I qualified. It tells the time, sort of -- but it reminds me of the graft I put in and the mediocre success I made in life - buy it for no other reason than the fact you like it and every time you look at it, it will remind you that you earned it :)
 

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